[Ambassadors] Active/Inactive Ambassadors

[Giuseppe pignataro]

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Oggetto:	Re: [Ambassadors] Active/Inactive Ambassadors
Autore:	Francesco Ugolini <francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org>
Data:		05 aprile 2007 15:21:32

Sorry, but what I'm doing here? Am i joking? Or what?

Ok, i know I'm not a perfect manager but i want to remember what Thomas
is doing for this project: hi is managing all the request made by
Ambassadors, he is improving the communications trough Fedora News, and
giving new ideas for the project.

For the rest, people are working hard in the FAmSCo list and in the real
world. Took the example of Rodrigo that is managing one of the biggest
community (Latin America) and working to make the Ambassadors goals
possible.

So, we can't be everywhere and we can't accomplish all the requests but
we are trying to make our better, but we need the help of the community.

Regards

Francesco Ugolini

Hi Francesco,
I agree with you about the good and hard work all you are made.
But I have a little idea that don't create problem:What do you think about  give some task that the ambassadors can made?We can create a task list with some task that the ambassadors can make.In this way the ambassadors that want can help.In this way there are no problem if some one don't have the possibility to help. 

Regards,
Giuseppe

Bart Couvreur ha scritto:
> Jeffrey Tadlock schreef:
>> Francesco Ugolini wrote:
>>> We have to shake inactive people with new rules. I know it seems a bad
>>> thing, and in a certain view I agree, but it's the only way. Personally
>>> I'm hurt to see people that are doing nothing, because they don't
>>> respect people who work, and in this project we have a lot of people
>>> that every day talk with people and promote Fedora.
>> We don't *have* to do anything.  The cons to this proposal outweigh the
>> pros and have been brought up by many others on this mailing list.  We
>> stand to gain little by taking what will be perceived by many a negative
>> action and stand to alienate ambassadors who are out there supporting
>> Fedora though they might be neglecting to report every action to the list.
> 
>> This is certainly not the *only* way.  People are more likely to
>> participate in a positive and supportive group.  Not one that is looking
>> to mark people's names from a list because they failed to report
>> everything they are doing.  That is *not* the way to gain participation.
> 
>> If you want increased communication figure out why people aren't
>> reporting.  Make participating at events easier.  Let's focus all of
>> this energy towards something positive instead of this internal noise.
>> Let's work to get more Fedora users - not build animosity amongst our
>> own volunteers.
> 
>> You also have to remember this is a volunteer group.  Some people may
>> only have time to hand out a few DVDs or talk to people in their area
>> about Fedora.  If an ambassador were to only hand out one DVD a year and
>> not report it - I would still keep that person as an ambassador without
>> a label.
> 
> 
> A complete +1
> 
>>> If we want to close our eyes, ok, but it's not the better system. We
>>> have to give a new chance to Ambassadors Project to improve itself.
>> I don't think many have suggested closing their eyes.  Many have
>> suggested focusing on *positive* changes or means to encourage
>> participation.
> 
>>> Personally i prefer 100 people that work than 400 that do nothing.
>> And this comes around again - what is FAMSCO's opinion on this.  I have
>> yet to see any of the other FAMSCO members weigh in on this.
> 
> 
> Yes, and this is also my question. It's also a reason why I haven't
> responded to the thread at all (I've been reading all).
> 
> On what kind of level has there been any discussion about this in Famsco
> and what have you guys decided / discussed.
> 
> If you want more communication / reports from ambassadors, Famsco should
> do the same, e.g.: not only in meetings but also on mailing-list etc. (I
> know this is a different issue, call it an example)
> 
> Bart
> 

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