[Ambassadors] Ambassadors Meeting

Thu Apr 5 20:42:23 UTC 2007

sorry, ....

I personally don't agree with you, in my eyes, that's not a usable way
to "rate" action of someone ...

My English is not so good, indeed, and so I can't write for example 20
arcticles per week. Now I#m a "bad" Ambassador?

Hey ...

this is my privacy!

IN my work, at my job I can be rated, no doubt ...
But here as Ambassador it must be FUN  to be ONE, it must make me HAPPY
to do something and not:

oh, I have to upload a video to get more points to be awarded the next
time ...

or something like that.

We are somewhere on the "wooden way" to have Ambassadors more integrated
in Events, in FADs, ...

I'm really sure the most of the people listet on the wike are as active
as they can and we have less than 10% of "black sheepes" (which only
uses the official status for their own profit). And now I like to say:
Let it be as it is!

My opinion is with the whole discussion you all guys have been waked up
to remember what should our goals are and that we all want to work
together. We don't want to loose ONE person out of the people who want
to promote Fedora, but we did ...
We lost a couple of -in my eyes- important persons in the last few
month, and that's in my eyes a pity!

Let's find a way to work much better together, to help the people MORE
to spread the word, not to blame anybody out ...

Just my five cents

Gerold

Am Donnerstag, den 05.04.2007, 13:07 -0700 schrieb Tony Guntharp:
> There are other ways that can reward more active ambassadors without
> alienating those that are working towards the same goals but are doing
> so behind the scene.
> 
> 
> For example, on several social networking sites that I've assisted in
> development we award user points for users that contribute user
> generated content. A uploaded video file might be worth 5 points, a
> wiki-entry might be worth 3, etc etc. At certain point totals a user
> gets a title awarded to him befitting his accomplishments. If a user
> registers for the site and doesn't contribute he doesn't get points
> awarded but on the other hand we don't delete him or mark him as
> inactive.
> 
> 
> Digg works much the same way, anyone can register for Digg and
> contribute stories etc. But they don't take any action if you register
> and don't contribute.
> 
> 
> This whole proposal of marking an Ambassador Active/Inactive reeks to
> me of punishment. That may not have been your intention but your own
> words make a strong case for this. Using terms like punitive action
> exemplifies this.
> 
> 
> If you're really trying to give active Ambassadors credit then perhaps
> FAMSco should revisit http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Awards
> and hand out these recognition award more than twice in the past 12
> months. Perhaps make this a quarterly award.
> 
> 
> I'm guessing that due to the votes that were cast today (I was unable
> to attend and cast my vote unfortunately) that this is going to be a
> contested issue that is already drawing up lines and if we're not
> careful could damage the Ambassador Program in general.
> 
> 
> I for one will gladly leave the program if this resolution passes in
> it's current form.
> 
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> 
> -t
> -- 
> Tony Guntharp
> Co-Founder SourceForge.net
> fusion94 at gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 5, 2007, at 12:21 PM, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
> 
> > The proposal want to give active ambassador the recognition for this
> > work, and the simplest way to award a work is to recognize what was
> > done, in this sense, giving the status of active ambassador will
> > grant
> > them such recognition.
> > 
> > 
> > The question i ask myself is: Why people who work are against this
> > proposal? It's really a punitive action? Sincerely, I don't know.
> > The
> > idea behind my proposal want only to award working people, but it
> > seems
> > not to be such.
> > 
> > 
> > I think I've to reflect over this problem during this night, hoping
> > someone will help me to solve this one.
> > 
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > 
> > Francesco Ugolini
> > 
> > 
> > Greg Dekoenigsberg ha scritto:
> > > On Thu, 5 Apr 2007, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > For the first draft (we have two more weeks to discuss) the
> > > > results are:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > +1 = 7 votes
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -1 = 7 votes
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > This vote say an important thing: we have to work more on this
> > > > proposal.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > A few thoughts.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > First: if it's not unanimous, we don't have the right idea.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Second: focus on rewarding "active" participants, not penalizing
> > > "passive" participants.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Third: if you decide that an "award" is the right thing, we'd be
> > > willing
> > > to fund it.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --g
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini
> > 
> > 
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