[Ambassadors] Ambassadors Meeting

Sat Apr 7 09:59:48 UTC 2007

A BIG +1

Kind Regards,
Andi Rau

Am Donnerstag, den 05.04.2007, 22:42 +0200 schrieb Gerold Kassube:
> sorry, ....
> 
> I personally don't agree with you, in my eyes, that's not a usable way
> to "rate" action of someone ...
> 
> My English is not so good, indeed, and so I can't write for example 20
> arcticles per week. Now I#m a "bad" Ambassador?
> 
> Hey ...
> 
> this is my privacy!
> 
> IN my work, at my job I can be rated, no doubt ...
> But here as Ambassador it must be FUN  to be ONE, it must make me HAPPY
> to do something and not:
> 
> oh, I have to upload a video to get more points to be awarded the next
> time ...
> 
> or something like that.
> 
> We are somewhere on the "wooden way" to have Ambassadors more integrated
> in Events, in FADs, ...
> 
> I'm really sure the most of the people listet on the wike are as active
> as they can and we have less than 10% of "black sheepes" (which only
> uses the official status for their own profit). And now I like to say:
> Let it be as it is!
> 
> My opinion is with the whole discussion you all guys have been waked up
> to remember what should our goals are and that we all want to work
> together. We don't want to loose ONE person out of the people who want
> to promote Fedora, but we did ...
> We lost a couple of -in my eyes- important persons in the last few
> month, and that's in my eyes a pity!
> 
> Let's find a way to work much better together, to help the people MORE
> to spread the word, not to blame anybody out ...
> 
> Just my five cents
> 
> Gerold
> 
> 
> 
> Am Donnerstag, den 05.04.2007, 13:07 -0700 schrieb Tony Guntharp:
> > There are other ways that can reward more active ambassadors without
> > alienating those that are working towards the same goals but are doing
> > so behind the scene.
> > 
> > 
> > For example, on several social networking sites that I've assisted in
> > development we award user points for users that contribute user
> > generated content. A uploaded video file might be worth 5 points, a
> > wiki-entry might be worth 3, etc etc. At certain point totals a user
> > gets a title awarded to him befitting his accomplishments. If a user
> > registers for the site and doesn't contribute he doesn't get points
> > awarded but on the other hand we don't delete him or mark him as
> > inactive.
> > 
> > 
> > Digg works much the same way, anyone can register for Digg and
> > contribute stories etc. But they don't take any action if you register
> > and don't contribute.
> > 
> > 
> > This whole proposal of marking an Ambassador Active/Inactive reeks to
> > me of punishment. That may not have been your intention but your own
> > words make a strong case for this. Using terms like punitive action
> > exemplifies this.
> > 
> > 
> > If you're really trying to give active Ambassadors credit then perhaps
> > FAMSco should revisit http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Awards
> > and hand out these recognition award more than twice in the past 12
> > months. Perhaps make this a quarterly award.
> > 
> > 
> > I'm guessing that due to the votes that were cast today (I was unable
> > to attend and cast my vote unfortunately) that this is going to be a
> > contested issue that is already drawing up lines and if we're not
> > careful could damage the Ambassador Program in general.
> > 
> > 
> > I for one will gladly leave the program if this resolution passes in
> > it's current form.
> > 
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> > 
> > 
> > -t
> > -- 
> > Tony Guntharp
> > Co-Founder SourceForge.net
> > fusion94 at gmail.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Apr 5, 2007, at 12:21 PM, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
> > 
> > > The proposal want to give active ambassador the recognition for this
> > > work, and the simplest way to award a work is to recognize what was
> > > done, in this sense, giving the status of active ambassador will
> > > grant
> > > them such recognition.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The question i ask myself is: Why people who work are against this
> > > proposal? It's really a punitive action? Sincerely, I don't know.
> > > The
> > > idea behind my proposal want only to award working people, but it
> > > seems
> > > not to be such.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I think I've to reflect over this problem during this night, hoping
> > > someone will help me to solve this one.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Francesco Ugolini
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Greg Dekoenigsberg ha scritto:
> > > > On Thu, 5 Apr 2007, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > For the first draft (we have two more weeks to discuss) the
> > > > > results are:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > +1 = 7 votes
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -1 = 7 votes
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > This vote say an important thing: we have to work more on this
> > > > > proposal.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > A few thoughts.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > First: if it's not unanimous, we don't have the right idea.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Second: focus on rewarding "active" participants, not penalizing
> > > > "passive" participants.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Third: if you decide that an "award" is the right thing, we'd be
> > > > willing
> > > > to fund it.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --g
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
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> > > 
> > > 
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