[Ambassadors] Active/Inactive Ambassadors+task+some idea

[Francesco Ugolini]

Sorry but i disagree completely. I see for the first time a lot of
people joining the discussion, i see 30 people join the weekly meeting,
i see things change and people discussing productively about the future
of our project.

If you want to close the discussion, ok, do that, you have the power,
but remember that discussion interest many people, and if we want to
stop this, to re-start the Welcome ambassador or just discuss media
coverage, ok, no problem.

I think that in the last 2 weeks all ambassadors work a lot, they spend
a lot of time trying to find a solution, to approve or criticize this
proposal.

But, if you want to close this, no problem. I've tried to make this
community live, to demonstrate that we are here, and i see it's true.
For me is a personal defeat, i have to be sincere, i spent a lot of time
trying to find a common solution, trying to explain people what we were
discussing, but, ok, if you want to close this discussion, you are free
to make this.


Thomas Chung ha scritto:
> On 4/9/07, Greg Dekoenigsberg <gdk at redhat.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 7 Apr 2007, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
>>
>> > Stay sure, we don't want to "kill" people, we know the different needs
>> > of each ambassador. We want to shake people that do nothing.
>>
>> Why?
>>
>> Why do we want to "shake people that do nothing"?  What harm do they do?
>> And what's to say that someone who does nothing today won't be someone
>> who
>> does something vitally important later?  And what's your threshhold for
>> "activity" -- somebody says "I'm active"?
>>
>> The *only* effect of *any* inactivity policy will be to announce to
>> people, "we don't want you, go away."
>>
>> My $0.02: once somebody says "I am a Fedora ambassador," then they are a
>> Fedora ambassador, FOR LIFE.  Until (a) they say "no thanks, I'm not an
>> ambassador anymore," or (b) they do something that disgraces Fedora, and
>> FAMSCO drums them out.
>>
>> =====
>>
>> So let me back up and ask a question.  What's the *real* goal here?
>>
>> Is the goal to recognize our best ambassadors?
>>
>> Is the goal to know who can be "counted upon" to get stuff done?
>>
>> What are we trying to accomplish with the active/inactive proposal?
>>
>> --g
>>
>> -- 
>> Greg DeKoenigsberg
>> Community Development Manager
>> Red Hat, Inc. :: 1-919-754-4255
>> "To whomsoever much hath been given...
>> ...from him much shall be asked"
> 
> 
> All,
> 
> I'm sorry I was away from this whole discussion.
> It's time for me to step in stop this once for all.
> 
> Yes, Greg is *absolutely* correct. This entire discussion is not
> helping our project but tearing us apart. I even noticed some of us
> planning to leave the project because this discussion.
> 
> I *urge* you stop this non-productive proposal and I would to hear
> more productive ideas.
> Please consider this is my last call to end this discussion.
> 
> Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee Chair

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