[Ambassadors] inactive ambassadors, a proposed solution

Foxhaund foxhaund at gmail.com
Sun Feb 22 10:13:51 UTC 2009

Max, as for me: i have an account in FAS, i have a personal page in  
Fedora-Wiki, but i write to the fedora-list very seldom, but i always  
reading it.

Am i inactive?

I prefer to work with people to sitting in the mailing list and  
discussing questions.

But, of course i agree with you.

19.02.2009, в 14:34, Max Spevack написал(а):

> The purpose of this email is to try to lay out a roadmap for  
> solving, once and for all, the question of inactive Fedora  
> Ambassadors.
> (1) Housekeeping.  All projects need to have their membership  
> rosters pruned from time to time.  In Ambassadors, this is  
> particularly important because non-Fedora people might get in touch  
> with Ambassadors, and if they don't receive a response, it looks  
> like Fedora is ignorning them.  Other sub-projects for which  
> identifying inactive ambassadors are crucial is packaging.  If  
> someone drops off the face of the earth, their packages need to be  
> given to a new owner.
> Pages that need to a "refresh" policy:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList <-- I argue  
> that CountryList is the wrong name for this page, and it should be  
> called Directory.
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Count <-- why do we even  
> need this page?  Doesn't the CountryList page serve the same purpose?
> How often are these pages currently updated?  Is the process manual  
> or automated, or a mixture of both?
> (2) Give a more prominent location to the "list of ambassadors per  
> country".  That page should be the most visited page in all of  
> Fedora Ambassadors.  People who are trying to find out about Fedora  
> should be visiting it, and Ambassadors who are looking for other  
> Fedora folks near them should be visiting it.
> We should have something on fedoraproject.org that says "are you  
> interested in Fedora?  Find a Fedora Ambassador near you to give you  
> some information" and you type in your location, and it spits back a  
> list of Ambassadors near you.
> (3) In order for any of (2) to be successful, we need to make sure  
> that the people who are listed as Ambassadors are actually paying  
> attention to the Ambassadors part of Fedora.  If someone is not, it  
> doesn't mean that they are a bad person -- it just means that they  
> don't want to have to deal with organizing events or asking  
> questions from newbies to the project.
> I wouldn't be offended if someone removed me from the Fedora  
> Infrastructure group in FAS, because *I DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH  
> FEDORA INFRASTRUCTURE*.  It doesn't mean I'm a bad person or not a  
> Fedora contributor, it just means that I don't participate in that  
> part of Fedora.
> We come up with a policy that is simple, and fair.
> An active ambassador is someone who:
> 1) Has joined the group in FAS.
> 2) Reads and/or posts on fedora-ambassadors-list.
> 3) Has a useful, up-to-date personal page on the Fedora wiki.
> And does one or more of:
> * Attends or organizes an event once in a release cycle.
> * Maintains a blog on Planet Fedora, with about one post per month.
> * Participates on fedora-list or fedoraforum.org to help people w/  
> questions.
> * Indicates their willingness to mentor and guide new contributors  
> or new users.
> If someone is inactive, we *DO NOT* kick them out of the ambassadors  
> group in FAS, and we *DO NOT* remove them from fedora-ambassadors  
> list.
> But we should remove them from the "directory of Ambassadors sorted  
> by country", which I argue again needs to be much more visible and  
> useful, so that those inactive Ambassadors aren't being asked to do  
> public-facing things.
> When someone re-surfaces or has more time for Ambassadors, we put  
> them back on the directory.
> ==================
> Flame me.
> --Max
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