[Ambassadors] mentorship, sponsorship, etc.

[David Nalley]

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Scott McBrien <smcbrien at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Mar 29, 2009, at 10:28 AM, Rangeen Basu <sherry151 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> 2009/3/29 Rachit Gupta <rachit.tech at gmail.com>:
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>>> Morpheus..we can start a forum where we can provide all the basic details
>>> about how to start with fedora ambassador program..also how these new
>>> ambassdor can contibute to foss.
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>> Easier said than done. Take the clue from Ambassador's Quick Starter
>> Guide[1] (I am not accusing anyone here) project. And isn't the
>> mailing list supposed to serve exactly the same purpose?
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>> [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Quick_guide
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>> Regards
>> --
>> Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury
>> Fedora Ambassador
>> sherry151 at gmail.com
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> Personally, I would like to see the Ambassadors mailing list _NOT_ used to
> discuss the basic elements of contributing to an OSS project or discussion
> of basic ideas and philosohy of OSS in general.  Currently I think it is
> used for these types of discussion, which is why we have hundreds of
> messages that say "me too" or "I'm here".  That said, I think we can all
> agree that currently we do a poor job of orienting new ambassadors to steer
> them towards alternatives.  The regional Ambassadors list is more suited to
> answering new Ambassadors' questions as the people or processes tend to vary
> enough region to region.
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> I don't want to discourage participation in the community, but many of us
> agree that the noise to useful message ratio on ambassador-list is skewed
> towards noise.  It boils down to this:  Think about all the senior people in
> the community worldwide that read your email to ambassador-list, what
> impression do you want to make on them?  Does your email convey this
> impression?
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> Having access to the global Fedora community is a privlege, like all
> privleges, if it is abused, it will dissapear.
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> Many of us have ideas of what we'd like a new ambassador mentoring program
> to look like.  David (ke4qqq) has an email he sends to new North American
> ambassadors to welcome them.  I'll put it on a wiki page tonight along with
> the thoughts mentioned throughout this thread, I think that those things
> will likely be a good start for us to help orient new members joining our
> sub-community in Fedora. I'm travelling today, so if someone wants to take
> the initiative for creating the page, I wouldn't mind ;-)
>
> -Scott
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Interesting point Scott - we've long resisted having separate mailing
lists because we didn't want to fragment the community. That said -
the various regions are very different in many ways. Things that I can
do in the US might not work in EMEA, etc. Perhaps it's time to
reconsider this. I have to admit the noise is pretty high at times,
and I know a number of prominent people who heavily filter (via
procmail) this list.