document-page-setup or/and document-properties icon mockups.

Fri Mar 9 21:20:21 UTC 2007

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Agreed. Still, if we drop out the microscope idea, we still would have to=

decide, whether to use a tool with a page or without, whether it would be=
 cog,
wrench or screwdriver or hammer. If we use it with a page, will it be ins=
ide
(like in tango icon theme) our outside the page? Also there are two IMHO =
similar
icons - document-page-setup for set up page settings and document-properi=
tes to
set up/look at document properties. E.g. in tango document-page-setup is =
listed
in naming specs, but was never created(?), while document-properties does=
 look
more or less what document-page-setup could look like.

I would suggest to make these two icons (slightly) different. We can adop=
t a
bluecurve idea for document-properties using the tool alone (I would pref=
er
wrench [the one with orange handle] to the other three). I think, page is=
 not
necesarry there, since the same icon is usually used for accesing whateve=
r file
properties, even of folders - that does not work good with page IMO. For
document-page-setup I would pick the same tool as for document-properties=
, but
combine it with a page. Does it make sense to you?

Also I added outlines to the #2 and #5 and their smaller versions. I thin=
k they
look better than the first version and #5 a little better than #2 IMO.

Regards,
Martin Sourada

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Diana Fong napsal(a):
> Ben Arnold wrote:
>> On 07/03/07, Nicolas Mailhot <nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net> wrote:
>>> Diana Fong wrote:
>>>
>>> > I also would like to hear opinions about the use of the wrench or
>>> > screwdriver + hammer metaphor currently used to represent 'properti=
es'
>>> > and 'setup' throughout the desktop, and how the use of the microsco=
pe
>>> > can cause confusion.
>>> setup is very different from properties. You go into setup to change
>>> stuff and have access to configuration utilities. OTOH properties are=

>>> mostly used in passive look-at-it context, and a lot of properties ar=
e
>>> static
>>
>> Setup for base settings while properties are per-session or document?
>>
>> If I'm honest, the microscope would not work as well as a metaphor
>> because that says 'search' or 'analyse' to me rather than properties.
>> That said, I always look for the text alongside that icon because it
>> is an easily identifiable word but that doesn't excuse it in toolbars.=

>> The doc-prop-4 without the cog to the bottom-right and the single
>> spanner in #2 are my personal favourites. I think #4 would fit in more=

>> with the other action emblems and #4 gives across the idea of more
>> core/basic settings well.=20
>=20
> 'Properties' does seem to present less options to change, however (usin=
g
> OpenOffice Writer as an example) it does seem that the user can set or
> tweak some things.  I think that's what's causing the confusion, the
> ability to set changes.  Therefore, I like Ben's explanation best...tha=
t
> setup is for base settings while properties are per-session/document.=20
> Both of which indicate some sort of tweaking or change, which a
> microscope doesn't really convey.
> I'd like to propose we continue to use the hammer/wrench for 'setup'
> since we seem to all agree that 'setup' allows for the most change.  As=

> for properties, personally...I would like to stick with the same
> hammer/wrench or cog symbol. However, I feel less strongly about this
> point...as 'properties' also seem to present a lot of information that
> is static as well.  We can definitely test out the microscope idea, and=

> see how people feel when used in context.
>=20
> To throw another related term in the mix...'preferences'...I think
> should probably follow what we choose for 'setup' as it also allows for=

> much setting and changing of things.
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> Thanks,
> Diana Fong
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