mockup for user information interface

[Mark]

>
> Can you list out the applications in particular you think need UI work?



do you have a year or 2 ;)
no, jk (or well.. if you want to make gnome state of the art you will really
need a year or 2 just for the designing and implanting it in coding)
i`m not in gnome/linux at the moment but i can name some that really bother
me.

- pup/pirut
- yum GUI (add/remove software)
- gnome-control-panel (starts to look good but misses some things...)
- font settings
- sound settings (besides the fact that some sounds (or alot) are not even
changable there but that might also be a library problem)


to be honnest.. just everything. i like the smooth layouts/design and gnome
or kde or any other desktop environment simply doesn`t have that yet
(besides Windows XP and Vista.. and no i`m not PRO them.. i`m PRO open
source and highly pro Linux)

i`m making a mockup now with the edit in place stuff.. (looking good
already) and i`m also editing the entire window to my taste how i would like
to have it.


2007/3/14, Máirín Duffy <duffy at redhat.com>:
>
> Mark wrote:
> >     What is the advantage of the edit in place over the current label +
> form
> >     field model?
> >
> >
> > well.. with edit in place you have it in a way better looking design and
> > is (in my opinion) alot more user friendly.
>
> It's not enough to have an opinion. You should test both designs and see
> if that truly is the case. You can test paper mockups if you need to.
> (see http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20030414.html). Check out
> www.betterdesktop.org for more information about user testing. You'll
> see in a few of those usability testing reports that things usability
> professionals thought might be more usable were actually less so in
> practice than they thought (and vice-versa).
>
> > perhaps a edit in place with
> > a small icon bisides it that indicates that you can edit it. thinking
> > ahead is also possible instead of sticking with the current gnome HIG :)
>
> Brainstorming is fine but it is not a good idea to impose untested ideas
> in a piece meal fashion to achieve progress.
>
> > (btw.. i looked over some pages in the current HIG and i can`t really
> > say that it`s a good example.. it looks like it`s from the windows 3.1
> > age (about 20 years ago)) things need to go forward if that`s a
> > improvement ofcause.
>
> Did you look at the 2.0 HIG or the development version (there is a link
> to the development version on that page)
>
> Looks and interactions are different. Just because the screenshots in
> the hig may show a very old GTK theme doesn't mean the principles aren't
> the same for the newer, nicer-looking GTK themes like clearlooks.
>
> >     Do you see how in the current screen, the shortcuts are underlined?
> How
> >     would a user know to hit Ctrl + U? Also, is the Ctrl + U key
> combination
> >     bound to some other function? (probably)
> >
> >
> > no.. lets just do that the same way it was done before. otherwise users
> > can browse through the fields with the TAB button on the keyboard.
>
> What if the user already filled out the form and realized they
> misspelled something in the 3 field. You want them to cycle through the
> complete set of items with Tab? I don't think so.
>
> Try setting up Orca (The gnome accessibility system) and try to use it
> for a day. The problem will become exceedingly clear to you then, I think.
>
> > and some more stuff i might forgor to mention...
> > in the current gnome (all apps) i hate it that it`s not as "feeling
> > natural" as i would like it to be and that alot parts are looking like:
> > "quickly done and it works so leave it alone" jobs (sorry if i offended
> > anyone) but now that the linux community is growing alot (specially
> > fedora) i think it`s time to spend some time in the user interfaces
> > aswell instead of only improving the coding (not that improving the
> > coding is wrong..
>
> Sure, but let's spend time trying to improve the UIs that are in sorest
> need of help than those that are already pretty polished?
>
> Can you list out the applications in particular you think need UI work?
>
> absolutely not) gnome just misses alot of things that
> > i miss and i try to improve it a bit by contibuting. in this case it`s a
> > mockup but i`ve also reported a few bugs and uasbillity issues (like
> > that thumbnails are way out of scale compared to icons and truncating
> > long text and another one.. don`t know which one it was)
> >
> > this mockup might not really improve the way gnome works but it`s surely
> > improving the user settings panel.
>
> But you admitted it really didn't improve anything, it was just a
> different look?
>
> > o and i took the Live CD because my fc7 test 2 installation decided to
> > kill itself with printscreen (reported on bugzilla)
>
> Makes sense.
>
> ~m
>
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