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Re: shutdown compared ubuntu vs fedora

Valent Turkovic wrote:
Hi. I started a thread on fedora-desktop mailing list and they
suggested you also get involved you I joined this list also. Here are
some of the key points from thread going on fedora-desktop mailing

Please look at the video:

Matthias Clasen:

The logout dialog is one of the best-hated derivations from upstream
that you can find in Ubuntu.

Hated by whom? And why? Can you explain a bit?
Hi Valent!
Funny thing is that some people have asked the Ubuntu dialog to be replaced by the one used in SLED 10 SP1. :) [1]

Sorry, but the current logout/shutdown/whatever dialog in Ubuntu is quite bad and mostly just a copy of the one used in WinXP, but with some more crack added. These actions can and must be designed in a better way, putting some shiny graphics there won't do much help.

Some interesting reading on the subject can be found by Joel [2], Moishe [3] and Arno [4]

Regarding the symbols used in the Ubuntu I find most, if not all of them a bit weird. The button used for hibernate looks the same as the one I press when I start my Dell laptop in the morning. Ubuntu's sleep symbol looks the same, but use another color. I therefore find it a bit confusing when the words and symbols used conflict. What do I trust, the symbol or the verb?

1. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/50209
2. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000356.html
3. http://moishelettvin.blogspot.com/2006/11/windows-shutdown-crapfest.html
4. http://arno.org/blog/2006/11/design-of-mac-os-x-shutdown-feature.html

- Andreas

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