Package pruning for FC4 and beyond - COMPLETE LIST

Eric Warnke eric at
Sat Feb 26 17:24:18 UTC 2005

Please post feedback.  All objections noted.  Please tell me why any of 
these items should stay in core.  Most should probably end up in extras 
with a few that can probably drop off all together at this point.  This 
list was based on my own review of .src.rpm's in testing.  I am not 
running testing, so ther may be small issues with some of the items, 
please contact me directly if I miscalculated.

This is based on core being a small and stable platform with little 
diplication.  Many pacakages would probably do better in extras too with 
the possibility of more maintainers.

Once I have sufficient feedback I will forward this list on to the 
technical board for consiteration.

Please positive feedback only.

Removed from consiteration
ccs - cluster config?
electricfence - multiplatform .. see new additions
doxygen - core must be self hosting
Xaw3d - required by emacs and emacs is being kept
bogl* - kernel 2.2 fb graphics lib d:0 ( should update dependancies here 
if it's required by the installer! )
epic/irssi?  epic is there and it's the only text mode irc client unless 
we want to swap it out for irssi
dasher - alternate input method
h2ps - should let people that use multinational tools decide which one 
go and which ones stay

Ojections, but I still believe could be moved.

*freeglut - library with no dependancy in core.  libtiff requirement can 
be corrected.  I am working on a patch or updated spec file.*

*dovecot/cryus - IMAP server cyrus does seem more like a specialty 
package when compared to the simplcity and utility of dovecot.*

lynx/w3m+w3m-el/elinks - 1 objection about scripts using lynx... ether 
those scripts are not part of core or they are not marked correctly.  If 
you can surf the web with either, you can download them from extras.  If 
either has a dependancy in core the .src.rpm needs to be corrected. 
Personally I think lynx should go to extras.

SDL - kdeaddons is the only thing that depends on this. 1 objection. 
Would be nice to have in core, but is really not a core function since 
nothing in core depends on it.  Anything that is going to require it can 
pull it down from extras.
+ kdeaddons - small add on packages. not 100% necessary.

*New additions to the likley list*
w3m/w3m-el - another text pager/web browser
usermode/utempter - overlaps with sudo
tora - packaged without oracle plugin and does appear to work out of the 
box with MySQL or postgress.
tix - Tcl/Tk extansion
routed - appears to be superceeded by quagga
qmkbootdisk - graphical boot disk creation utiltiy - stale
ots - was used as part of abiword, but abiword has been religated to extras
nut - nice package, but is it really core materal?
nss_db - partly broken. Most usefulness gone now that nscd is standard ( 
I will personally manage since I wrote the fix )
dosfttools - looks like mtools superceeds this package.
mew - emailing in emacs
strace - looks like ltrace provides same functionality
dmalloc, valgrind - electricence appears to be more compatible and 
better developed.
fsh - obscure shell, features absorbed into OpenSSH
giftrans - netpbm tools can do the same
iptstate - package getting stale
jed - another text mode editor
joe - yet another text editor ( nano / pico / emacs / ed / vi )
lftp - useful ftp client ( ftp, ncftp ) D:0
nedit - another x text editor

Likley without objections
Canna - Superceeded by IIMF - nothing depends ! 10MB
MAKEDEV - Superceeded by udev ?
*VFlib2 - Required by MajicPoint and ghostscript - only if we can break 
the ghostscript compatibility
+ MagicPoint - Duplicated functionality already in other packages
a2ps - text to postscript tool required by xfprint
awesfx - OLD ( 2000 ) D:0
cdecl - C/C++ to English conversion D:0
apel - extras for emacs
+ ddskk - extra input methods for emacs
+ flim - message encoding emacs
+ wl - imap/pop/nntp reader
arptables_jf - specialized filtering of arp D:0
cscope - c code browser - duplicate effort D:0

Possible without objections
talk - protocol is getting old with IM
star - tar with acl support.
planner - anther project managment tool
pinfo - another text info file browser - do we need two?
cdlabelgen - does anyone use? D:0
autorun - functionality in most desktops already d:0
freeradius - complex package d:0
ftpcopy - utility D:0.  I have never used it do we need in core
g-wrap - Another wrapper for a development utility d:0
mc - Is this really a core util? would it be better served in extras?



Eric Warnke                   Computer Programmer / Systems Analyst
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