Announcing Fedora 7 Test 4 (6.93)

[Kevin Kofler]

Jesse Keating <jkeating <at> redhat.com> writes:
> KDE is a part of Fedora, however the overwhelming evidence is that Fedora 
> focuses on Gnome and GTK stacks.  Almost all the Fedora upstream software 
> that is graphical is built on gnome/gtk.  It is the most integrated 
> experience you can get.  Using KDE is a less integrated less polished 
> experience, and thus it is not our best foot forward.

It's because of statements like this that Fedora has a bad reputation with the 
KDE community (just look at some of the comments at dot.kde.org). I'm doing my 
best to improve Fedora's reputation there, but statements like this from 
official people like you as the Release Engineer really ruin things.

How is KDE on Fedora less integrated? Why do you think people like Than Ngo, 
Rex Dieter, Sebastian Vahl or me work our behinds off to fix things like this:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=228111
which is now finally fixed (thanks also to a developer from Pardus who made a 
one-line fix to my patch to get it to work instead of crashing)? (In fact, we 
have to specifically fix what your GNOME developers break, but that's another 
issue.)

We're really doing what we can to provide a well-integrated KDE desktop to 
Fedora users, I think it's unfair to us to call this "a less integrated less 
polished experience" and "not our best foot forward", and I also think it's 
Fedora's reputation you're ruining there (again, look at some of the comments 
at dot.kde.org, I'd be surprised if nobody is going to quote your above 
paragraph the next time Fedora is mentioned anywhere), not just KDE's and ours.

        Kevin Kofler