Root login in rawhide and display managers
che666 at gmail.com
Thu Sep 20 07:11:44 UTC 2007
2007/9/20, David Boles <dgboles at gmail.com>:
> on 9/19/2007 6:09 PM, � wrote:
> >> on 9/19/2007 4:29 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 20:18 +0000, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> >>>> Matthias Clasen <mclasen <at> redhat.com> writes:
> >>>>> Yeah, but then you don't walk away from your root session expecting
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> screensaver to kick in - which it doesn't for root.
> >>>> Then fix that GNOME bug instead of hiding it. Screensavers and desktop
> >>>> locking
> >>>> for root work just fine in KDE.
> >>> And I assume that KDE users are just happy to run tons of unaudited
> >>> toolkit code as root...
> >>> Anyway, its a moot point, we'll re-enable root login for test3.
> >> I have watched this thread since the beginning and I can no longer keep my
> >> peace.
> >> A knowledgeable Linux user would know how to change this default. Or
> >> figure out how to change. I know how and I am certainly not on the level
> >> of many here.
> > True so he know he can simply <ctrl><alt>F1 and take it from there...
> >> A 'not so knowledgeable Linux user' would use the 'enter Roots password'
> >> windows to preform these tasks.
> > And if the user manage to shoot himself in the foot so he cant login
> > using his username and password how is he gonna manage to get to his
> > "enter the root password dialog"....
> >> Any user that can not do either of these things *does not* have any
> >> business logging in as root in a GUI. Period.
> > Wrong he has a fighting chance to save himself log into familiar
> > surroundings fix the situation with S-C-* tools, learn from his mistake
> > instead of have to do clean install or bother advanced users given that they
> > are some where around him.
> > The alternitive "dropping him to terminal window" were he would be dead in
> > the water...
> >> Or do you want Fedora 8 to be like Windows?
> > No...
> >> Where 'run as root' is the
> >> default for the 'not so knowledgeable Windows user'?
> > Last time I used M$ windows it made dam sure that the user could harm
> > the system ( windows it self ) and question every other move he did..
> > Maybe Windows is actually trusting user today but I doubt it...
> >> You want them to be
> >> able to shoot themselves in the foot?
> > Yes. the users will learn from there mistakes, adopt,evolve and move on..
> > Let's place the trust on the user always.
> >> I hope not.
> >> Want to use Linux, be a Linux Geek, so to speak? Learn a little more about
> >> it first. More than downloading an ISO and burning it it Windows.
> > Nope get the user first into linux as hazle free and comfortable as
> > possible...
> >>From there he will start using, playing, fiddle around *expanding his
> > knowledge about linux. etc..
> Well as soon as Linux can play Oblivion, Solder of Fortune, Half-Life, and
> the so many other Windows games you will get a *lot* of 'new Linux users'
> from Windows. Just as ignorant as you are looking for here.
well please do your homework:
sof even has a native linux port.
> I give up. Logical thinking does not work when dealing with zealots. But I
> still think that you are wrong. No default GUI root logins.
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