Summary of the 2008-04-01 Packaging Committee meeting

Jerry James loganjerry at
Wed Apr 2 19:24:23 UTC 2008

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs at>

> Java guidelines
>  *
>  * This is the first vote for this draft, but it's the culmination of
>    significant work and discussion
>  * Accepted (5 - 1)

Where should questions about the Java guidelines be directed?  This list?
The wiki page?

I'm curious about two points.  First, rpmlint can either complain that jars
are indexed, or complain that they are not indexed.  In the default Fedora
configuration, it complains if they are indexed.  Why?  Is there some
supported JVM on some supported Fedora release that cannot handle indexed
JARs?  I don't see anything about this in the JPackage guidelines, nor in
the Fedora guidelines.

Second, I have a question about the use of Class-Path in JAR manifests.  The
JPackage guidelines say nothing about it.  The Fedora guidelines only give a
sed command to remove Class-Path entries, but do not discuss why they should
be removed.  Rpmlint says, "These entries do not work with older Java
versions and even if they do work, they are inflexible and usually cause
nasty surprises."  What older Java versions?  Any that we care about?  In
what way are they inflexible?  What nasty surprises have been encountered?

Jerry James
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