review for user account policy

Paul W. Frields stickster at gmail.com
Tue Sep 9 14:04:21 UTC 2008


On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 10:31 +1000, Christopher Curran wrote:
> Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 14:24 +1000, Christopher Curran wrote:
> >   
> >> Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Any comments on this?
> >>>
> >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/AccountSystem#Account_Termination
> >>>
> >>> Mike is setting some policy[1] as per a thread on f-advisory-board[2].
> >>>
> >>> [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2008-September/msg00001.html
> >>> [2] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2008-August/msg00122.html
> >>>
> >>> Feel free to edit that content if you see something that is clear, or
> >>> send your comments back here.  I believe Mike is subscribed to this
> >>> list, so we can get his input when needed.
> >>>
> >>> - Karsten
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >> Line 2:
> >>
> >>     These freedoms, however, do not include the right to deceive,
> >>     manipulate or otherwise *change* the processes and procedures Fedora
> >>     has in place.
> >>
> >>
> >> So the rules can never change, those with power never leave and anyone 
> >> who questions them is out? I'd consider revising to make it less 
> >> transcendental and more concrete. Add detailed boundaries of what is 
> >> wrong and why it is harmful. For example: vandalism, deliberately 
> >> creating security issues, self promotion, harassment, and so on.
> >>     
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/AccountSystem#Account_Termination
> >
> > I made a couple changes -- see if that helps.  I am not necessarily in
> > favor of detailing specific violations because our definitions may
> > differ (or be incorrect).  I don't believe it's vital that we do so,
> > either, in order to retain the rights to terminate accounts.
> > Nevertheless, I'm going to shoot a note to Fedora Legal to see whether
> > any further text might be required.
> >
> >   
> There is still a lot of fake legalese verbosity in the paragraph. Most 
> people don't speak legalese, many have no understanding what you are on 
> about after you start speaking it. Sum it up.
> -----
> Fedora project reserves the right to terminate accounts used 
> maliciously. Accounts may be terminated for:
>  * maliciously violating or circumventing fedora project's procedures.
>  * using multiple accounts without permission.
>  * deliberate damage to the openness, transparency, and equality of the 
> fedora project.
> -----
> That's about all that needs to be there anything else is just padding. 
> Don't use ten words for something you can say in two.

Good points all.  I take it you're not inclined to exercise the power of
wiki editing for some reason then? ;-)

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