review for user account policy

[Mike McGrath]

On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote:

> On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 10:31 +1000, Christopher Curran wrote:
> > Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 14:24 +1000, Christopher Curran wrote:
> > >
> > >> Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Any comments on this?
> > >>>
> > >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/AccountSystem#Account_Termination
> > >>>
> > >>> Mike is setting some policy[1] as per a thread on f-advisory-board[2].
> > >>>
> > >>> [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2008-September/msg00001.html
> > >>> [2] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2008-August/msg00122.html
> > >>>
> > >>> Feel free to edit that content if you see something that is clear, or
> > >>> send your comments back here.  I believe Mike is subscribed to this
> > >>> list, so we can get his input when needed.
> > >>>
> > >>> - Karsten
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> Line 2:
> > >>
> > >>     These freedoms, however, do not include the right to deceive,
> > >>     manipulate or otherwise *change* the processes and procedures Fedora
> > >>     has in place.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> So the rules can never change, those with power never leave and anyone
> > >> who questions them is out? I'd consider revising to make it less
> > >> transcendental and more concrete. Add detailed boundaries of what is
> > >> wrong and why it is harmful. For example: vandalism, deliberately
> > >> creating security issues, self promotion, harassment, and so on.
> > >>
> > >
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/AccountSystem#Account_Termination
> > >
> > > I made a couple changes -- see if that helps.  I am not necessarily in
> > > favor of detailing specific violations because our definitions may
> > > differ (or be incorrect).  I don't believe it's vital that we do so,
> > > either, in order to retain the rights to terminate accounts.
> > > Nevertheless, I'm going to shoot a note to Fedora Legal to see whether
> > > any further text might be required.
> > >
> > >
> > There is still a lot of fake legalese verbosity in the paragraph. Most
> > people don't speak legalese, many have no understanding what you are on
> > about after you start speaking it. Sum it up.
> > -----
> > Fedora project reserves the right to terminate accounts used
> > maliciously. Accounts may be terminated for:
> >  * maliciously violating or circumventing fedora project's procedures.
> >  * using multiple accounts without permission.
> >  * deliberate damage to the openness, transparency, and equality of the
> > fedora project.
> > -----
> > That's about all that needs to be there anything else is just padding.
> > Don't use ten words for something you can say in two.
>
> Good points all.  I take it you're not inclined to exercise the power of
> wiki editing for some reason then? ;-)
>

Hey guys, thanks for the comments.  I'm not a fan of 'written approval'
for multiple accounts.  Especially not when its stated that they will be
removed, its not enforcable.

	-Mike