[Fedora-electronic-lab-list] FOSS.IN Presentation - Review submission

Chitlesh GOORAH chitlesh at gmail.com
Mon Nov 24 20:10:30 UTC 2008

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Aanjhan R wrote:
> I am waiting to hear your valuable feedbacks and suggestions.
> Some points regarding the presentation:
> 1. I would like to add some more info on the current status. Suggestions welcome
> 2. Is there a need for a separate slide on "Contributing
> Opportunities" which very much is going to be similar/in-line with
> Future Work slides?
> 3. I have consciously tried to avoid too much details on specifics of
> FEL tools as this is more of a call for participation kind of talk
> (hopefully it is ;) )


First, I would like to thank Aanjhan for his courage to participate in
FOSS.in. I believe in you.
Personal note to Aanjhan: Don't forget you will be talking under the
name of fedora and for fedora on that day (and most certainly under a
fedora polo shirt).

I have been talking with Fedora-Art this weekend and they are
proposing that every OOo document should have the same template.
Mairin has already brought forward and put into practice the idea to
use "MgOpen Data regular" font in all Fedora slides. Paul Frields and
others support this idea. I spent the weekend creating the template
while using this font. I feel it doesn't fit for FEL presentations for
the following reasons:
- µ and other mathematical symbols show like a square box
- bold characters reflects a kiddie style presentation.

[1: more details on my personal marketing strategy, below]

Thus, after many trials, Liberation Sans looks be more compatible with
other Fedora presentations with the "MgOpen Data regular" font and
also more professional. Liberation fonts can be downloaded via yum.

Thereby, I would like you to adopt this template and drop the black
background as well as the orange text in favour to blue:

Let's be consistent with other fedora presentations.

Also as this is the first FEL10 presentation, I would like it to be
the model that other presentations should follow.

Removed all Copyrights from the slides ! You have already signed CLA
and your fedora contributions are safely guarded with it.

>> Need for more collaboration among the Free Software EDA developers a.k.a Interoperability :)

It is not the "need", but it was lacking !
Lack of collaboration and directions in development.

Page 4:
>>From a handful of tools to a complete simulation platform
Please also do mention during the presentation that, all this was only
and only possible due to already existing development fedora
infrastructure. People need to know that FEL wasn't come out of the
blue, but after Fedora Infrastructure has given developers like us
materials so that we can focus on our FEL developments:
- mailing list
- livecd, livedvd torrent hosting
- livedvd kickstart and spin creation tools
- approval to use Fedora trademarks
- git/trac, 150mb personal hosting
- ...

e.g: RedHat lawyers talked to SystemC developers to ask them opt for a
more "open" license. But in vain. However thanks to TomCallaway.

A short reminder(yes I will keep on talking ... :) ), we don't do only
packaging ! We don't do only packaging ! We follow the need of the
users, while keeping us informed with current industry process and
changes. This is what makes FEL development so unique. The end users
don't see it. So during the presentation, It would be nice to remind

As for achievements, please do say that :
2008-01-18 FEL LiveCD shipped with YOU Magazine in ASIA

"You magazine"  bundled Fedora Electronics Lab Live CD. This print
magazine claims to be the only Asian print magazine dedicated to Linux
and has tens of thousands of copies circulation rate. Since they also
run a sister magazine called Electronics For You, they have a good
interest in electronics which probably explains the choice.  [3] [4]

Page 6:
>> Upstream <--> FEL <--> Upstream
There are 2 items that are missing :
- Users
- Daily documents we follow to keep FEL to industry standard ! I do
it. However, being only 3 now working on FEL, it's enough to get those
ideas into practice.

>> Push more packages into "Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux (EPEL)"
Add a "5" at the end of this line
Do mention during the presentation - for RHEL5, CentOS 5, Scientific Linux

More to come in the next mail (after dinner :) )

[1: more details on my personal marketing strategy]
I have never ever limited FEL use for home users only. My main target
is universities. During the last 2 years, I have been more in contact
with many Field Application Engineers. Thus, listening to their
internals problems with EDA tools and what issues their CAD engineers
are facing. Talking "opensource" to them is :
- no direct reliable contact in their point of view.
- not mature, compared to big EDA vendors.
- 24h support

Since Synopsys, Cadence and Mentor Graphics are actively contributing
to their OpenAccess environment. Companies are ready to have a look. I
_believe_ that if they have a look and were taught the Opensource
licenses by a lawyer(I'm leaning on RH's lawyers if it would be the
case), they will unleash some of their internal tools. Thereby, more
contribution to opensource upstream projects. It is a long shot, I'm
targeting but at least it is a clear one for me. Hence you would have
already deduced why I constantly request quality in our presentations
and work.

[2]: http://www.press.redhat.com/2007/05/09/liberation-fonts/
[3]: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2008-January/msg00154.html
[4]: http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/you.png

Chitlesh Goorah

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