[Fedora-i18n-list] Re: Japanese input _almost_ working in English FC2 (KDE)

Fri Jul 2 07:05:39 UTC 2004

What is your version number of IIIMF? iiimf*-46.svn* may works with you
better right now.

For licq, make sure 'htt_xbe' process is running.

Regards,
Leon

On 五, 2004-07-02 at 14:36, Colin Lau wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm also having some issues with getting Traditional Chinese input mode 
> to toggle. I started having this problem since I upgraded to the latest 
> IIim packages. Before that, I could easily turn on/off IME in Mozilla or 
> LICQ using Ctrl-Spacebar. Now I have to use the mouse to select the 
> language mode in the Gnome applet (Gnome輸入法切換器 1.0.1) to switch 
> between Chinese and English input in Mozilla. At this moment I am unable 
> to type Chinese in LICQ. Is there any special configuration I need to 
> perform to make it work as before?
> 
> Thanks,
> Colin
> 
> morpheus wrote:
> 
> >Daniel,
> >Sorry I can't answer your questions on the Chinese side since I don't
> >use the Chinese input, only 日本語.
> >But I have had similar problems to you with the mode toggling off.  What
> >happens to me is usually if I go back and highlight existing text
> >intending to type/replace it, when I press space for the conversion it
> >only gives me romaji (roman character) options, instead of kana and
> >kanji options.  If I save, close the application and reload, it works
> >fine.
> >Has anyone else experienced this?
> >-jr
> >
> >On Fri, 2004-07-02 at 03:41, Daniel S.K. Yek 叶盛刚 wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>>  # /usr/sbin/htt_server -d
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>I'm glad to know the above command and the debug switch. Thanks.
> >>
> >>James, I apologize to intercept the thread on Japanese input. Below is
> >>Chinese input, but the problem is not a lot different - I think. 
> >>
> >>I have IIIMF and the GNOME desktop; I enjoy the ability to read
> >>Chinese characters in my emails and see them in many applications.
> >>That is good...Super.
> >>
> >>However, I am not thrilled with IIIMF yet, because I cannot use it
> >>effectively. With the debug message, I can identify several occasions
> >>where the conversion mode is toggled off: 
> >>        Toggle client conversion mode to false.
> >>
> >>When using gedit, every time I type a space character, the conversion
> >>mode turns off by itself. CTRL-Space also turned off the conversion
> >>mode. There might be more situation where the conversion mode is
> >>turned off.
> >>
> >>Once the conversion mode is turned off, it cannot be turned on
> >>conveniently - CTRL-Space definitely doesn't work. Gimlet is as buggy
> >>as it can be at this point. When the space character turned conversion
> >>mode off, it reduced to a small button without a label on it. Clicking
> >>on it, I found that "English" is checked. 
> >>
> >>The only way I can turn the conversion mode on is by clicking on
> >>Gimlet and choose "Simplified Chinese". Right-click in gedit and from
> >>the context menu choose Input Methods/Internet-Intranet Input Method
> >>doesn't turn the conversion mode on - Gimlet displays a empty label. 
> >>
> >>Switching between application windows, Gimlet may sometimes display
> >>英文, that is "English" in Chinese characters. Clicking on Gimlet shows
> >>that Simplified Chinese in checked, not "English" as displayed. The
> >>conversion mode was not turned on - there is no way to turn it on
> >>until you go through the clicking process to check Simplified Chinese
> >>again. 
> >>
> >>Too often conversion mode is turned off unintentionally and one needs
> >>to start all over again to turn it on. That discounted my experience
> >>with IIIMF a lot. 
> >>
> >>There are several other problems: 
> >>I couldn't switch between Simplified Chinese input method anymore. I
> >>did it once or twice with CTRL-ALT-4 awkwardly, when FC2 was first
> >>released, but it doesn't seem to work anymore.
> >>I gave up adding Traditional Chinese to the list - Gimlet crashed and
> >>randomly changed its menu one or two times too often. I added
> >>Traditional Chinese, a crash (I forgot if I killed it because it
> >>simply wasn't behaving) will take it out.
> >>I have no idea what ASCII mode is. Why it just suddenly appeared in
> >>the menu and I think I lost "English", for a while. It didn't work to
> >>input ASCII too.
> >>
> >>
> >>Although, I provided a list of problems, I can see that a lot of the
> >>mechanism are already there. A few polishing in UI components might
> >>solve most of the problems I am experiencing. 
> >>
> >>Thank you all for advancing the International support on Linux!
> >>
> >>Pls.: Is there a guide on this version of Chinese input methods? I'm
> >>not very good at any Chinese input method, but I learned a little of
> >>two input methods before. I just need to learn it/them more
> >>comprehensively. Even a database of what keystrokes yield what
> >>character(s) will be a good reference for me. Thanks.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 19:01, Akira TAGOH wrote: 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>>>>On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 22:38:39 +0000,
> >>>>>>>>"morpheus" == morpheus <morpheus at post.harvard.edu> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>                
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>morpheus> Yeah, I've tried just about all the key combinations I can think of,
> >>>morpheus> including CTRL-space, SHIFT-space, ALT-space, etc. etc...
> >>>
> >>>BTW I couldn't find which version are you using from your
> >>>mails (but you said the latest packages)
> >>>Pleas make sure anyway:
> >>>- you have installed the latest updated im-sdk packages. the
> >>>  latest version is 11.4-46.svn1587. if you have installed
> >>>  it correctly, try rpm -qa | grep iiimf, and you will see:
> >>>  iiimf-client-lib-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires)
> >>>  iiimf-client-lib-devel--11.4-46.svn1587 (optional)
> >>>  iiimf-csconv-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires)
> >>>  iiimf-docs-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional)
> >>>  iiimf-emacs-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional)
> >>>  iiimf-gtk-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for gtk2 apps)
> >>>  iiimf-le-canna-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Japanese)
> >>>  iiimf-le-hangul-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Korean)
> >>>  iiimf-le-newpy-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Simplified Chinese, but iiimf-le-inpinyin is recommended)
> >>>  iiimf-le-unit-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for others)
> >>>  iiimf-protocol-lib-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires)
> >>>  iiimf-protocol-lib-devel-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional)
> >>>  iiimf-server-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires)
> >>>  iiimf-x-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for X apps)
> >>>- sorry for the reminder, but run your terminal and check
> >>>  the environment variable again. if you configure it
> >>>  correctly, you can find out the below as the result of
> >>>  printenv command:
> >>>  XMODIFIERS=@im=htt
> >>>  GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim
> >>>- as you indicated, the processes is running looks
> >>>  good. however please stop the processes (I meant htt,
> >>>  htt_server, httx and htt_xbe. please keep running
> >>>  cannaserver) first to track this issue down. and run it
> >>>  manually on the terminal instead of. like this:
> >>>  # service IIim stop
> >>>  # killall httx
> >>>  # ps -efw | grep htt | grep -v grep
> >>>  (you won't see any output here)
> >>>  # /usr/sbin/htt_server -d
> >>>
> >>>  and on the another terminal:
> >>>  # /usr/bin/httx
> >>>  and then, run the KDE applications from the another
> >>>  terminal and press ctrl+space.
> >>>
> >>>what do you see on each terminals?
> >>>
> >>>Regards,
> >>>--
> >>>Akira TAGOH
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