[Fedora-i18n-list] Re: Japanese input _almost_ working in English FC2 (KDE)
Colin Lau
lau at cs.wisc.edu
Fri Jul 2 08:01:12 UTC 2004
Hi Leon,
Thanks for your response. A run of "rpm -qa | grep iim" gave me:
iiimf-le-inpinyin-0.3-2
iiimf-le-xcin-0.1.5-1
iiimf-protocol-lib-11.4-46.svn1587
iiimf-le-newpy-11.4-46.svn1587
iiimf-server-11.4-46.svn1587
iiimf-csconv-11.4-46.svn1587
iiimf-gtk-11.4-46.svn1587
iiimf-le-unit-11.4-46.svn1587
iiimf-docs-11.4-46.svn1587
iiimf-le-hangul-11.4-46.svn1587
iiimf-le-canna-11.4-46.svn1587
iiimf-client-lib-11.4-46.svn1587
iiimf-x-11.4-46.svn1587
FYI, Traditional Chinese input worked fine for me in both Mozilla and
licq with version iiimf-*-11.4-43. I think that was before the IM
switcher applet was installed.
I also ran "ps -ef | grep xbe" and confirmed that the htt_xbe process is
running. The Chinese mode can be toggled in licq using Ctrl-Space, but
the IME mode seems to be independent from the gnome-im-switcher-applet
input mode (i.e. the applet still shows 英數 although licq is no longer
accepting my input as English characters). Instead, a white box popped
up whenever I try to input something in Chinese mode.
Any ideas are welcome.
Thank you,
Colin
Leon Ho wrote:
>What is your version number of IIIMF? iiimf*-46.svn* may works with you
>better right now.
>
>For licq, make sure 'htt_xbe' process is running.
>
>Regards,
>Leon
>
>On 五, 2004-07-02 at 14:36, Colin Lau wrote:
>
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I'm also having some issues with getting Traditional Chinese input mode
>>to toggle. I started having this problem since I upgraded to the latest
>>IIim packages. Before that, I could easily turn on/off IME in Mozilla or
>>LICQ using Ctrl-Spacebar. Now I have to use the mouse to select the
>>language mode in the Gnome applet (Gnome輸入法切換器 1.0.1) to switch
>>between Chinese and English input in Mozilla. At this moment I am unable
>>to type Chinese in LICQ. Is there any special configuration I need to
>>perform to make it work as before?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Colin
>>
>>morpheus wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Daniel,
>>>Sorry I can't answer your questions on the Chinese side since I don't
>>>use the Chinese input, only 日本語.
>>>But I have had similar problems to you with the mode toggling off. What
>>>happens to me is usually if I go back and highlight existing text
>>>intending to type/replace it, when I press space for the conversion it
>>>only gives me romaji (roman character) options, instead of kana and
>>>kanji options. If I save, close the application and reload, it works
>>>fine.
>>>Has anyone else experienced this?
>>>-jr
>>>
>>>On Fri, 2004-07-02 at 03:41, Daniel S.K. Yek 叶盛刚 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> # /usr/sbin/htt_server -d
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>I'm glad to know the above command and the debug switch. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>James, I apologize to intercept the thread on Japanese input. Below is
>>>>Chinese input, but the problem is not a lot different - I think.
>>>>
>>>>I have IIIMF and the GNOME desktop; I enjoy the ability to read
>>>>Chinese characters in my emails and see them in many applications.
>>>>That is good...Super.
>>>>
>>>>However, I am not thrilled with IIIMF yet, because I cannot use it
>>>>effectively. With the debug message, I can identify several occasions
>>>>where the conversion mode is toggled off:
>>>> Toggle client conversion mode to false.
>>>>
>>>>When using gedit, every time I type a space character, the conversion
>>>>mode turns off by itself. CTRL-Space also turned off the conversion
>>>>mode. There might be more situation where the conversion mode is
>>>>turned off.
>>>>
>>>>Once the conversion mode is turned off, it cannot be turned on
>>>>conveniently - CTRL-Space definitely doesn't work. Gimlet is as buggy
>>>>as it can be at this point. When the space character turned conversion
>>>>mode off, it reduced to a small button without a label on it. Clicking
>>>>on it, I found that "English" is checked.
>>>>
>>>>The only way I can turn the conversion mode on is by clicking on
>>>>Gimlet and choose "Simplified Chinese". Right-click in gedit and from
>>>>the context menu choose Input Methods/Internet-Intranet Input Method
>>>>doesn't turn the conversion mode on - Gimlet displays a empty label.
>>>>
>>>>Switching between application windows, Gimlet may sometimes display
>>>>英文, that is "English" in Chinese characters. Clicking on Gimlet shows
>>>>that Simplified Chinese in checked, not "English" as displayed. The
>>>>conversion mode was not turned on - there is no way to turn it on
>>>>until you go through the clicking process to check Simplified Chinese
>>>>again.
>>>>
>>>>Too often conversion mode is turned off unintentionally and one needs
>>>>to start all over again to turn it on. That discounted my experience
>>>>with IIIMF a lot.
>>>>
>>>>There are several other problems:
>>>>I couldn't switch between Simplified Chinese input method anymore. I
>>>>did it once or twice with CTRL-ALT-4 awkwardly, when FC2 was first
>>>>released, but it doesn't seem to work anymore.
>>>>I gave up adding Traditional Chinese to the list - Gimlet crashed and
>>>>randomly changed its menu one or two times too often. I added
>>>>Traditional Chinese, a crash (I forgot if I killed it because it
>>>>simply wasn't behaving) will take it out.
>>>>I have no idea what ASCII mode is. Why it just suddenly appeared in
>>>>the menu and I think I lost "English", for a while. It didn't work to
>>>>input ASCII too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Although, I provided a list of problems, I can see that a lot of the
>>>>mechanism are already there. A few polishing in UI components might
>>>>solve most of the problems I am experiencing.
>>>>
>>>>Thank you all for advancing the International support on Linux!
>>>>
>>>>Pls.: Is there a guide on this version of Chinese input methods? I'm
>>>>not very good at any Chinese input method, but I learned a little of
>>>>two input methods before. I just need to learn it/them more
>>>>comprehensively. Even a database of what keystrokes yield what
>>>>character(s) will be a good reference for me. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 19:01, Akira TAGOH wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 22:38:39 +0000,
>>>>>>>>>>"morpheus" == morpheus <morpheus at post.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>morpheus> Yeah, I've tried just about all the key combinations I can think of,
>>>>>morpheus> including CTRL-space, SHIFT-space, ALT-space, etc. etc...
>>>>>
>>>>>BTW I couldn't find which version are you using from your
>>>>>mails (but you said the latest packages)
>>>>>Pleas make sure anyway:
>>>>>- you have installed the latest updated im-sdk packages. the
>>>>> latest version is 11.4-46.svn1587. if you have installed
>>>>> it correctly, try rpm -qa | grep iiimf, and you will see:
>>>>> iiimf-client-lib-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires)
>>>>> iiimf-client-lib-devel--11.4-46.svn1587 (optional)
>>>>> iiimf-csconv-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires)
>>>>> iiimf-docs-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional)
>>>>> iiimf-emacs-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional)
>>>>> iiimf-gtk-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for gtk2 apps)
>>>>> iiimf-le-canna-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Japanese)
>>>>> iiimf-le-hangul-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Korean)
>>>>> iiimf-le-newpy-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Simplified Chinese, but iiimf-le-inpinyin is recommended)
>>>>> iiimf-le-unit-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for others)
>>>>> iiimf-protocol-lib-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires)
>>>>> iiimf-protocol-lib-devel-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional)
>>>>> iiimf-server-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires)
>>>>> iiimf-x-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for X apps)
>>>>>- sorry for the reminder, but run your terminal and check
>>>>> the environment variable again. if you configure it
>>>>> correctly, you can find out the below as the result of
>>>>> printenv command:
>>>>> XMODIFIERS=@im=htt
>>>>> GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim
>>>>>- as you indicated, the processes is running looks
>>>>> good. however please stop the processes (I meant htt,
>>>>> htt_server, httx and htt_xbe. please keep running
>>>>> cannaserver) first to track this issue down. and run it
>>>>> manually on the terminal instead of. like this:
>>>>> # service IIim stop
>>>>> # killall httx
>>>>> # ps -efw | grep htt | grep -v grep
>>>>> (you won't see any output here)
>>>>> # /usr/sbin/htt_server -d
>>>>>
>>>>> and on the another terminal:
>>>>> # /usr/bin/httx
>>>>> and then, run the KDE applications from the another
>>>>> terminal and press ctrl+space.
>>>>>
>>>>>what do you see on each terminals?
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>--
>>>>>Akira TAGOH
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