today's meeting logs

susmit shannigrahi thinklinux.ssh at
Sun Jul 20 14:44:33 UTC 2008

I am extremely sorry.
I forgot about this..Will it be possible to send a reminder a day before?
That may help forgetful people like me. :)

Oh, yes, chacha_chaudhry, you are right.
/me, arindam and subhodip are attending the event at Nagpur.

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Rakesh Pandit <rakesh.pandit at> wrote:
> Hello list,
> Today we had meet at #fedora-india ( at 6:30pm.
> Some highlights :
> - Some events round the corner in nagpur, Hydrabadh and Durgapur
> (still in planning) Please consider updating for any event on
> - Consider posting thoughts to this thread about fedora publications
> and media related activities:
> - In case you are working on anything related to Fedora -- consider
> pointing in list ;-)
>  e.g kushal is working on blog aggregation tool
> ( asked for at
> In case I missed some important points , please add on.
> In case you missed today -- don't miss it next time same time same place.
> Meeting log:
>  Roll Call then
>  Rahul Sundaram
> <chacha_chaudhry> Rakesh Pandit
> <techbugs> SiddharthUpmanyu
> <kushal> KushalDas
> <mintos> Minto Joseph
> <mether> ok
>  mintos: Do you want to introduce yourself ;-)
>  for the good news last week
> <mintos> Yea I am pretty new with community activities..
> <chacha_chaudhry> nice, /me waiting for good news
> <munichlinux> prashanth
> <mether> chacha_chaudhry:  has been sponsored and became a official
> package maintainer with two new packages: sitecopy and dnrd under his
> belt
> <mether> and many more on review
> <kushal> chacha_chaudhry, once again , congrats :)
> <techbugs> cool
> <chacha_chaudhry> Thanks :)
> <techbugs> congrats
> <chacha_chaudhry> :-)
> <mether> mintos, Minto Joseph has became a official package maintainer
> too starting with padauk-fonts
> <chacha_chaudhry> Congrats mintos
> <mintos> thank you . :)
> <mether> chacha_chaudhry: will pass on the list of packages he has
> submitted that are waiting on review to fedora-india list. If anyone
> is interested in reviewing packages (as you all should be), that would
> be a good place to get started
> <kushal> mintos, congrats
> <chacha_chaudhry> I will post just after meet
> <mintos> thankyou kushal
>  ok
>  mintos munichlinux mether
> <chacha_chaudhry> mether: I haven't started fonts yet :(
> <mether> sm|CPU:  posted a query about keeping track of Fedora related
> publications or media activities in
>  if you haven't read it, take a look and feel free to offer your suggestions
> <chacha_chaudhry> news wiki is good idea in my view
> <mether> There are foss events planned at Nagpur and one in Hyderabad.
> is anyone planning to attend either?
> <techbugs> HYD ? when is that one scheduled?
> <mether> t
> <chacha_chaudhry> susmit was planning to attend nagpur I am not sure though
> <mether> 1-3 Aug
>  Osmania university campus
> <techbugs> hmmm it is possible to go.. i'll say 50.50.. let me go
> thought it for a min
> <mether> I had a couple of invitations from the folks organizing the
> event for but it is unlikely I would be able to travel
>  if someone local to the event is attending, that would be great
> <techbugs> our local Fedora guy in hyd is not in town this month
> <chacha_chaudhry> :-/ /me very far away
> <mether> noone from
>  I will go through the list and find if anyone is in those places or
> nearby it and check with them
> <techbugs> mether .. is there any conveyance they r providing or we
> have to do our own
> <mether> techbugs: which event are you asking?
> <techbugs>
>  s/i//
> <mether> I dont think so but if you are nearby and willing to travel,
> we might look into funding that from the Fedora India budget
> <techbugs> I can traver that weekend.. i am free
> <mether> contact me or sm|CPU online and we will look
>  err offline
> <techbugs> ok sure..
> <mether> anyone know of any other foss events before
> <chacha_chaudhry> no
> <mether> when you come across any, please update
> <kushal> mether, a small chance of arranging "A Day with Fedora" in Durgapur
> <chacha_chaudhry> no idea I mean
> <kushal> mether, very small though
> <mether> kushal: alright, you might want to update the events page
> nevertheless to plan for it.
> <kushal> mether, first I have to plan to organize the event in any case :p
> <mether> of course, make this part of your plan
>  mintos munichlinux mether
> <kushal> mether, ok
> <mether> do we have anyone new and interested in contributing here?
> <kushal> here == ?
> <mether> Lakshmi Pathi said he was going to package his own utilities
> at
>  might want to followup on that
>  kushal: here = hanging in irc now
> <kushal> oh, ok
> <mether> techbugs: didnt you sign up to maintain the Fedora developers
> spin or was it someone else?
> <kushal> mether, Soumya is trying to go through the basics of
> packaging , he will join the team I guess :)
> <mether> kushal: yep. I will keep a tab on that
> <techbugs> mether yap it was me... trying a few combos for Cd and DVD
> <mintos> I am planning to package few more packages ..
> <techbugs> mether i was hoping to pass some patches this weekend but
> went down with cold
> <mether> techbugs: alright, let me know when you are ready. We need to
> plan it out and propose it before the feature freeze for Fedora 10
> <techbugs> mether ok
> <mether>
> <kushal> mintos, cool :)
> <mether> mintos: when you propose it you might want to post a note in
> Fedora india list
> <mintos> mether, yea sure I will
> <mether> and for everyone else too, if you are doing something related
> to Fedora, announce that in the list so the rest of us are aware of it
> and can help or join the effort
>  that is especially true for things in new package proposals where you
> need someone else to do the peer reviews but other things are good to
> know too
>  anything else people want to talk about or got questions to ask?
> <kushal> I have some thing to say:
> <mether> go ahead, the stage is yours
> <kushal> I am working on blog aggregation tool, which will blog Fedora
> announce list's mails
>  as asked by speavak
>  ^^ is the blog
>  initial version of the code can be found
>  <EOF>
> <mether> Max Spevack (who is the previous Fedora Project leader for
> those not in the loop) asked for it at
> <kushal> ok, I typed wrong name :(
> <mether> which one?
> <kushal> spevack :p
> <mether> ah, thats ok
>  Is this time convenient for everyone?
> <chacha_chaudhry> yes
> <kushal> yes
> <mintos> yes
>  seems interesting
> <techbugs> yes
> <mether> alright then
>  if nobody else has anything else to announce or ask, We will end the
> meeting here
> <chacha_chaudhry> just one query I was looking at gnusound
> <mether> and
> <chacha_chaudhry> it has ffmpeg as one of its requirements which is
> not in fedora official repo but present at livna
> <mether> unless the requirement is optional, the entire package has to
> go to livna or other third party repositories too
> <chacha_chaudhry> requirement is optional
> <mether> then you can push the main package into Fedora and put the
> optional components if any to livna
> <chacha_chaudhry> mether: is it required to package ffmpeg for fedora
> or we can leave that
>  okay yes
> <mether> you cannot package ffmpeg in Fedora due to patent concerns
> <chacha_chaudhry> yes that I though earlier but did not dig that deep
> <mether> in general, if there is any package in livna, it is there
> because of legal concerns or licensing issues
> <chacha_chaudhry> mether: if there are same issues with other package
> where it is not even in livna then -- is it good that I package that
> requirement for livna ?
> <kushal> chacha_chaudhry, yes
> <chacha_chaudhry> okay
> <mether> chacha_chaudhry: yes, the software should allow at the
> minimum redistribute rights for livna to accept it
> <chacha_chaudhry> okay
> <mether> some proprietary software like adobe reader can be downloaded
> individually by the user but they cannot be packaged and redistributed
>  so livna is not a "anything goes" kind of repository
> <chacha_chaudhry> there are many other packages in orphan list
> actively maintained upstream and important -- we may also consider
> looking at some whether we can pick them
>  okay
> <mether> right
>  there are two classes of packages
>  orphaned and dead
> <chacha_chaudhry> yes
> <mether> orphaned = maintainers lost interest and orphaned it
> <chacha_chaudhry> I had a dig at this list these needs some work some
> dead packages are also in wish list
> <mether> dead = maintainers orphaned it and marked it as dead for good
> reasons and you probably shouldnt bring them back, atleast not without
> getting to know why it is marked as dead in the first place
> <chacha_chaudhry> yes
>  okay
> <mether> these include, opyum which was marked as dead because pirut
> has been replaced by packagekit which is growing that functionality
> <chacha_chaudhry> okay
> <mether> chacha_chaudhry: your case is similar to xine-lib in Fedora
> <chacha_chaudhry> okay /me checking ...
> <mether> the free and patent unencumbered portions are in Fedora
>  the rest is in livna
> <chacha_chaudhry> okay
>  good :)
> <mether> if you are a official package maintainer, the guidelines is
> just the same and you dont require separate sponsorship there
> <chacha_chaudhry> nice
> <mether> the only bits that are different is the licensing portions
> <chacha_chaudhry> mether: okay -- may you point in brief what ?
>  I mean what is that difference
> <mether>
> are not applicable to livna
>  they allow proprietary or potentially patent encumbered components
> <chacha_chaudhry> okay
> <mether> also note that livna and other repos are getting merged into
>  I am not involved in that effort but ask in their channels or mailing
> lists for more details
> <chacha_chaudhry> okay nice
> --
> Rakesh Pandit
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