mysql-server

[Pettit, Paul]

> Eric Rostetter wrote:
> 
> Quoting "Pettit, Paul" <ismanager at ccbnpts.com>:
> 
> > disagree with the "don't use auto-update" as a general 
> policy at least the
> > document gave examples of when you should consider not 
> using the auto-update
> > function (almost never in a production environment from your guide).
> 
> Yes, this is standard best practices.  See the links to Microsoft's
> Best Practices and the other site link I gave in an e-mail two weeks
> ago about this.  They all agree: Best Practices dictate you don't use
> auto-updates from vendors on your production machines.
> 

I've read (and now re-read) the MS document, the other one I couldn't open
for some reason. I disagree that is what the MS document says on security
updates but YMMV.

I was going to go into another discourse on best practices and how the real
world works but it's not worth it.

> > Hope you weren't waiting on just me to comment but it seems 
> you were, my
> > bad.
> 
> No, I was hoping multiple people would comment.  I was not 
> just waiting for
> you as far as comments go.
> 
> I was waiting to see if you wrote up something like you said 
> you would in
> an email.  Never heard back on that either.  But certainly in 
> any case it
> was not just you I was waiting for.  I was hoping to get feedback from
> at least several people.
> 

I decided that writing up anything at the time would have been a) circular
filed by you or whoever got it, b) would not have been very objective and c)
your page covered all the important parts of auto-updating and the risks
involved. So I moved on.

> > I had been waiting for the wiki to become available again, 
> guess it's not
> > going to happen. Too bad as I really want to help but find 
> that there is no
> > way to do that currently.
> 
> Yes.  The wiki is sometimes available, sometimes not.  
> Amazingly it was
> up enough for the spammers to get in again and deface it with 
> links (I fixed
> that yesterday).  But I know it is frustrating; more than 
> once I've had it
> go south on me while I was using it.
> 
> Since it isn't stable, I'm hoping Jesse will get it migrated to a new
> (more stable, secure) location asap.  But not sure what if 
> any progress
> is going on with that.
>  

I'll look forward to that day then.

> > As for posting comments, corrections, documentation edits 
> here ... well ...
> > we've seen how well that has worked in the past.
> 
> Very well actually.  At least 75% of the docs on the web site 
> came from
> people posting them to the mailing list.
>  
> > Yeah, that's sarcasm too ...
> 
> Yes, but I feel you have a negative view of the list for no 
> valid reason.
> It does work, if you let it. 
> 
> [Rest of what I would say here deleted to avoid another flame war]
> 
> -- 
> Eric Rostetter
> 
> --

Right now I'm just going to go back to lurking (save that test I need to do)
as it's the safest thing to do right now.

You have the keys to the car (or at least one set) and if I or anyone should
say "it might be best to turn left" and you turn right we all are just along
for the ride.

Paul Pettit
CTO and IS Manager
Consistent Computer Bargains Inc.

I've heard it said that the proof of lunacy is when you repeat the same
steps expecting different results.  I say it's proof that you're a Microsoft
user. - comment by deshi777 on experts-exchange.com