[Fedora-legal-list] Re: License of 2xSai family of image scaling algorithms (was: 2xSai has an unclear license ...)

Sat Oct 24 00:37:48 UTC 2009

Hi Jason,

I hereby release the 2xSaI, Super2xSaI, and SuperEagle algorithms, old and new, both C/C++ and assembly implementations where applicable, under the GNU General Public License, version 2 or (at the users' option) any later version.

Hope that clears things up.

--- On Mon, 10/19/09, Jason A. Spiro <jasonspiro4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Jason A. Spiro <jasonspiro4 at gmail.com>
> Subject: License of 2xSai family of image scaling algorithms (was: 2xSai has  an unclear license ...)
> To: "Derek Liauw" <derekl666 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: fedora-legal-list at redhat.com
> Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 12:37 PM
> Thanks for clearing that up:  it
> will prevent Fedora and Debian from
> having to spend time manually patching ScummVM and other
> software to
> remove 2xSai from them.  These distros are very strict
> and insist that
> all parts of all software they ship be open-source.
> 
> I did more research and I see that Super 2xSai and Super
> Eagle are
> also written by you.  I either didn't know this fact,
> or forgot it
> when I emailed you.  Do you also hereby release all
> versions of them,
> old and new, and any other scaling algorithms you've
> written (if any
> others exist) under the GNU General Public License, version
> 2 or (at
> the users' option) any later version?
> 
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Derek Liauw <derekl666 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > To whomever it may concern,
> >
> > Given the confusion (see mail history) on some license
> issue I wrote some time ago.
> >
> > I hereby release all versions of 2xSai, old and new,
> under the GNU General Public License, version 2 or (at your
> option) any later version.
> >
> > I did in fact give the ZSNES and probably some other
> projects permission a long time ago (don't remember exactly
> when, but probably when it was either first featured or it
> went from closed source -> GPL), but I guess it wasn't
> documented as such in the history.
> >
> > For future reference you probably can ping me.
> >
> >
> [d][e][r][e][k][.][l][i][a][u][w][@][g][m][a][i][l][.][c][o][m]
> >
> > Remove brackets...
> >
> > --- On Tue, 10/13/09, Jason A. Spiro <jasonspiro4 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Jason A. Spiro <jasonspiro4 at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: 2xSai has an unclear license and may
> be removed from a number of  programs in Fedora Linux
> >> To: "Derek Liauw" <derekl666 at yahoo.com>,
> "Derek Liauw Kie Fa" <derek-liauw at usa.net>,
> "Robert J. Ohannessian" <voidstar at ifrance.com>
> >> Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 4:00 AM
> >> Thanks for your reply Derek.
> >>
> >> 1.
> >>
> >> What's your new email address?
> >>
> > I don't check this e-mail often but it's still "in
> use". Now if yahoo had a forward feature I would use it, but
> alas...
> >
> >> 2.
> >>
> >> It would be very helpful if I could write to that
> email
> >> address and CC
> >> a public mailing list.  This might cause you to
> get
> >> more email about
> >> 2xSaI.  [ You don't have to reply to all the
> emails;
> >> if need be, you
> >> can just reply with the three words "Sorry, I'm
> busy". :)
> >> ]  May I
> >> please do that CC'ing, even though your new email
> address
> >> will then
> >> become public?
> >>
> >> 3.
> >>
> >> Can I forward emails we have sent to each other to
> public
> >> mailing
> >> lists or forums?
> >>
> >> 4.
> >>
> >> I looked for a public Snes9x source repository but
> its repo
> >> is
> >> actually nonpublic, and Snes9x is under a
> "non-commercial
> >> use only"
> >> freeware license.[1]  In zsnes's public repo
> 2xsai.cpp
> >> is there[2] in
> >> the "deleted files" section of /src/video, but
> there's no
> >> comment,
> >> even in the revision log[3], that you gave this
> >> permission.  So I fear
> >> that people will incorrectly think ZSNES
> relicensed your
> >> code without
> >> your permission.  Plus, there are multiple
> versions of
> >> 2xSaI floating
> >> around.
> >>
> >> Considering both these points, I think the best
> thing to do
> >> is to
> >> reply to this message with a permission notice.
> >> Please CC it to a
> >> public mailing list like fedora-legal-list at redhat.com
> >> or
> >> debian-legal at lists.debian.org.
> >> Either one is fine, but pick only one.
> >>  Pick according to your distro preference, or
> pick
> >> fedora-legal-list
> >> if you don't care.  Write the words "I hereby
> release
> >> all versions of
> >> 2xSai, old and new, under the GNU General Public
> License,
> >> version 2 or
> >> (at your option) any later version".
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> -Jason
> >>
> >> ^  [1].  http://www.snes9x.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=4334
> >> ^  [2].  http://zsnes.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/zsnes/zsnes/src/video/?hideattic=0
> >> ^  [3].  http://zsnes.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/zsnes/zsnes/src/video/2xsai.cpp?hideattic=0&view=log
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Derek Liauw
> <derekl666 at yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Wow,
> >> >
> >> > It's been at least 11 years since I wrote the
> code and
> >> at least 7 years since
> >> > I checked this e-mail lol... So just saw
> this
> >> (somewhat old) by chance. So
> >> > hope this still helps.
> >> >
> >> > To be honest I don't care what happens to the
> code
> >> anymore?
> >> >
> >> > Whatever .zip file is around is probably from
> my old
> >> xoom/usa.net website.
> >> >
> >> > If I remember correctly I agreed that newer
> versions
> >> of the code could be
> >> > released under GPL with ZSNES a long time ago
> (which I
> >> integrated and agreed
> >> > with the original author "_zsKnight").
> >> >
> >> > And yes I probably neglected to update all
> >> pre-existing files/my abandoned
> >> > website and such.
> >> >
> >> > My bad, but 1. I don't think my website
> exists
> >> anymore.  2. If it does exist
> >> > I probably don't know how to update it and
> the .zip
> >> distro.  3. I haven't
> >> > felt like making a new website for quite a
> while :P 4.
> >> I consider ZSNES or
> >> > the Snes9x projects as the new "source" of
> the
> >> file(s), since those are newer
> >> > versions / I more or less integrated them
> there, and I
> >> assume the files
> >> > source files already have a GPL license. (my
> memory
> >> isn't that great).
> >> >
> >> > Hope that helps.
> >> >
> >> > --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Jason A. Spiro <jasonspiro4 at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> From: Jason A. Spiro <jasonspiro4 at gmail.com>
> >> >> Subject: 2xSaI has an unclear license and
> may be
> >> removed from a number of  programs in Fedora
> Linux
> >> >> To: "Derek Liauw Kie Fa" <derek-liauw at usa.net>,
> >> "Derek Liauw Kie Fa" <derekl666 at yahoo.com>,
> >> "Robert J. Ohannessian" <voidstar at ifrance.com>
> >> >> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 11:06 PM
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> Derek's website[1] has a downloadable
> copy of
> >> 2xSaI
> >> >> available for
> >> >> download.  The text of the website says
> "GPL",
> >> but the
> >> >> readme file
> >> >> says something contradictory:
> >> >>
> >> >> 2xSaI Utility v0.7        Copyright
> (c)
> >> >> Derek Liauw Kie Fa, 1999
> >> >> Comments, Suggestions, Questions, Bugs
> etc.: derek-liauw at usa.net
> >> >> http://members.xoom.com/derek_liauw/
> >> >> This program is free for non-commercial
> use.
> >> >>
> >> >> Is the program GPLed (which means it is
> free to
> >> sell,
> >> >> modify, and
> >> >> more), or is it merely free for
> non-commercial
> >> use?
> >> >> If it is GPLed,
> >> >> then Derek, could you please update the
> zipfile to
> >> say so,
> >> >> and email
> >> >> me the updated file?
> >> >>
> >> >> If you do not answer, then Fedora Linux
> may have
> >> to rip out
> >> >> 2xSaI from
> >> >> many programs included on the Fedora
> DVD.  This
> >> will
> >> >> be a lot of work,
> >> >> and will make those programs worse. 
> :)  This
> >> is
> >> >> because Fedora does
> >> >> not allow software which is only free
> for
> >> non-commercial
> >> >> use on their
> >> >> DVD.  They require that the DVD be
> allowed to be
> >> >> sold.
> >> >>
> >> >> Note that I don't represent or volunteer
> for
> >> Fedora.
> >> >> I am just
> >> >> telling you their policies.
> >> >>
> >> >> Kind regards,
> >> >> -Jason Spiro
> >> >>
> >> >> ^  [1].  http://web.archive.org/elektron.its.tudelft.nl/~dalikifa/
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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