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Re: Escaping



On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 14:37, Bob Shaffer wrote:
> Alexander Dalloz said:
> > Am Di, den 04.05.2004 schrieb Bob Shaffer um 15:40:
> >
> >> I've recently been investigating certain (I won't mention any names)
> >> distributions which seem to have an endless life-cycle.  With these
> >> distributions, it seems that you can keep all of the software on your
> >> system at the most current versions and avoid the process of upgrading
> >> your entire O/S when new releases become available.  This seems like the
> >> only logical way of handling things to me.  Is it possible to do this
> >> with
> >> Red Hat/Fedora or, if not, will this be something that will be possible
> >> in
> >> the future and when?
> >
> > If you say that other distributions - do you mean just Linux
> > distributions or BSB distributions as well? - offer a special kind of
> > upgrade path, whatever that should be, you should explain what you mean
> > with that to be able to say whether that is possible with Fedora/Redhat
> > in the same way.
> >
> > Either, upgrading is upgrading and always means to get your whole system
> > to a higher state and not just updating applications. I do not know any
> > Linux distribution that would have a different policy.
> >
> > So please feed us with details and names.
> >
> > Alexander
> >
> >
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> 
> I would really like to be able to run a command every month, week, or day
> that would upgrade all of the software on my system.  Regardless of what
> piece of software or what kind of software it is, I would like to just be
> able to upgrade it no questions asked and not have to wait until a new
> "release version" becomes available and upgrade everything then.  More
> importantly, I think that the whole EOL thing is nonsense.  Every program
> that makes up everything in Linux is constantly being improved, having
> security vulnerabilities corrected and bugs fixed, etc.  Could I
> conceivably be able to set it up yum, up2date, or something so that when
> FC2/3/4/etc come out, I'm already running them, or am I doomed to always
> have to upgrade only when the new versions are released?
> 
> The one distribution that I've been looking at most recently and appears
> to have this feature is "Gentoo Linux".  It appears that one could install
> their initial release, run a command something like "emerge world", and
> soon be running a release more current then their last.  The "releases"
> they use are fairly meaningless in this sense - more like snapshots that
> are made of the distribution at some interval.  I'm wondering if this is
> possible with Fedora and/or if it ever will be.
> 
> I like Fedora, but I hate upgrading.  I do way to much customisation with
> my system for simply using the "upgrade" option in the installer for every
> new release to be a realistic possibility.  In the past I have tried this
> and it ends up creating more work than just backing everything up and
> doing a clean install followed by many hours or days of reconfiguration.
> 
> What options do I have, if any, to accomplish anything similar to what I'm
> talking about with Fedora Core?
> 
> 
> 
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> Bob Shaffer II - Owner/Developer/System Operator - BobShaffersComputer.com
> http://bobshafferscomputer.com/          telnet://bobshafferscomputer.com
>From what I read upgrading to core 2 will be almost automatic with only
some changes needed to the yum.conf.
In fact I have done this to bring up my firewall/server from RH 8.0 and
once yum was set up it was as painless as any other update.
-- 
jludwig <wralphie comcast net>



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