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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Downloaded updates from FC2 (Rodolfo J. Paiz)
   2. Re: my background (Bao Cao)
   3. Re: About "How do I make XMMS play MP3s?" from a new comer
      (John Minson)
   4. Re: Downloaded updates from FC2 (Rodolfo J. Paiz)
   5. Re: Client upload of files via http (Rodolfo J. Paiz)
   6. Re: Client upload of files via http (Leonard Isham)
   7. Re: code of process scheduling (abhijit kumar)
   8. Re: Downloaded updates from FC2 (James Mckenzie)
   9. Re: code of process scheduling (PFJ)
  10. Re: code of process scheduling (James Mckenzie)
  11. Re: code of process scheduling (James Mckenzie)
  12. Re: BIND 9 Problem - DNS Forwarding (Rodolfo J. Paiz)
  13. Re: FYI Livna.org drops x86_64 support (Rodolfo J. Paiz)
  14. Re: my background (Yang Xiao)
  15. Re: Client upload of files via http (HaJo Schatz)
  16. eM Bay Reader on FC1 (Alan Mead)
  17. Re: Dare I ask the question? (Matthew Miller)
  18. Re: About "How do I make XMMS play MP3s?" from a new comer
      (C. Linus Hicks)
  19. Re: Need Help - Postfix, imap, pop, spamassissan, clamav,
      webmail (Marius Andreiana)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:44:49 -0600
From: "Rodolfo J. Paiz" <rpaiz simpaticus com>
Subject: Re: Downloaded updates from FC2
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1099061090 3361 25 camel ip99 gt factorrent com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 14:39 -0400, Jacob L E Blain Christen wrote:
> haven't taken the time to try and learn yum yet, but using it's
> predecessor up2date [...]

up2date is not the predecessor to yum. They are entirely different and
separate programs that just happen to do the same thing. Competitors, if
you will. Both are under current development and work very well.

Cheers,

-- 
Rodolfo J. Paiz <rpaiz simpaticus com>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:47:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bao Cao <pearlsmm yahoo com>
Subject: Re: my background
To: Yang Xiao <yxiao2004 gmail com>,	For users of Fedora Core releases
	<fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <20041029144702 6900 qmail web61301 mail yahoo com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

All right, figured out.
Warning: Yang, no more jokes.... 

Best,
 Cao

--- Yang Xiao <yxiao2004 gmail com> wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Bao Cao
> <pearlsmm yahoo com> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > 
> > Due to an accident, my backgound image (Genome) is
> not
> > visuable, now it is deep blue, and all those
> icons,
> > such as XXX'home, etc, are all gone too. There is
> no
> > right-click on the screen, either. Can anybody
> please
> > show me how to get them back? Thanks!
> > 
> > Best,
> >  Cao
> > 
> Sorry but I just can't help it, I thought you were
> going to explain to
> us why you are called a "Cao Bao" ...
> 
> Yang
> 
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:47:59 -0400
From: "John Minson" <jminson scires com>
Subject: Re: About "How do I make XMMS play MP3s?" from a new comer
To: <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <s1821fed 066 mail scires com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

another option at

http://manta.univ.gda.pl/~mgarski/RPMS/xmms-mad/index.html

John Minson
Scientific Research Corporation
3860 Faber Place Drive
Suite 100
North Charleston,SC,29405

jminson scires com
(843) 740-3336 (office)




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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:51:58 -0600
From: "Rodolfo J. Paiz" <rpaiz simpaticus com>
Subject: Re: Downloaded updates from FC2
To: akonstam trinity edu,	For users of Fedora Core releases
	<fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1099061519 3361 32 camel ip99 gt factorrent com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 16:30 -0500, akonstam trinity edu wrote:
> It is a matter of download speed from a local machine versus a remote
> mirror. We update 60 machines so the time difference would be
> significant.

Something as simple as this:

# rsync -av ftp://SERVER/PATH/ /local/updates/

can be run from cron once or twice a day. Then you automatically have
*all* updates for that Fedora version on one box, downloaded exactly
once. And rsync will keep that directory updated for you.

Then you either NFS-export that directory to each machine, and tell
up2date to use the "dir" option to get its updates from a local
directory, or you make that directory a yum repository (very easy) and
point all your machines to it.

The tools are all there. Should take 5-10 minutes to set the whole thing
up. I have previously posted the scripts I used to run a full Red Hat
mirror; modifying those to easily mirror one or two updates directories
(i.e. FC1/updates and FC2/updates) is trivial. See:

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-list&m=109448240930737&w=2

Cheers,

-- 
Rodolfo J. Paiz <rpaiz simpaticus com>
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:55:55 -0600
From: "Rodolfo J. Paiz" <rpaiz simpaticus com>
Subject: Re: Client upload of files via http
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1099061756 3361 35 camel ip99 gt factorrent com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 15:03 -0700, Eucke Warren wrote:
> I have a potential customer who is looking to be able to upload and download
> files via his and his clients browsers.  Is this something that lftp is
> suited for....anything else that anyone is using that is secure and user
> friendly?  Thoughts, risks, real world war/horror thoughts?  I am assuming
> that most of the use will be via IE....
> 

The friendliest (but still very secure) solution I have found is WinSCP.
It is a nice and friendly Windows program with its own installer, where
they open it up and get two directory windows side-by-side (obviously,
one local and one remote). They then merely drag-and-drop from one side
to another.

Since all transport is over SSH, I feel happy. And it *is* easy. And I
get the pleasure of explaining to people that IE is a security nightmare
and that the best way of having their data cracked, lost, or stolen is
to use it. <grin>

Good results from several of my customers so far.

Cheers,

-- 
Rodolfo J. Paiz <rpaiz simpaticus com>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:00:29 -0400
From: Leonard Isham <leonard isham gmail com>
Subject: Re: Client upload of files via http
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1e6368e8041029080017e7028b mail gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:55:55 -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz
<rpaiz simpaticus com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 15:03 -0700, Eucke Warren wrote:
> > I have a potential customer who is looking to be able to upload and download
> > files via his and his clients browsers.  Is this something that lftp is
> > suited for....anything else that anyone is using that is secure and user
> > friendly?  Thoughts, risks, real world war/horror thoughts?  I am assuming
> > that most of the use will be via IE....
> >
> 
> The friendliest (but still very secure) solution I have found is WinSCP.
> It is a nice and friendly Windows program with its own installer, where
> they open it up and get two directory windows side-by-side (obviously,
> one local and one remote). They then merely drag-and-drop from one side
> to another.
> 
> Since all transport is over SSH, I feel happy. And it *is* easy. And I
> get the pleasure of explaining to people that IE is a security nightmare
> and that the best way of having their data cracked, lost, or stolen is
> to use it. <grin>
> 
> Good results from several of my customers so far.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> --
> Rodolfo J. Paiz <rpaiz simpaticus com>

WinSCP is great and based on putty (you can use putty for a cli interface.

-- 
Leonard Isham, CISSP 
Ostendo non ostento.



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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:31:11 +0530
From: abhijit kumar <kumarabhijit gmail com>
Subject: Re: code of process scheduling
To: kumarabhijit gmail com, fedora-list redhat com
Message-ID: <3c7f53f004102908011f98a969 mail gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

dear all!
   i want to recompile kernel Fedora core 2 (linux 2.6.5-1.358).so, i
need source code of Fedora core 2 (linux 2.6.5-1.358) kernel source
code.please send me the url from where i could get it.after a lot of
googling, unfortunately, i could n't get it. may i use the iso file
available with fedora core 2 rlease anyhow f.


Thanking You
Abhijit



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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:03:47 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
From: James Mckenzie <jjmckenzie51 earthlink net>
Subject: Re: Downloaded updates from FC2
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID:
	<30684748 1099062228371 JavaMail root huey psp pas earthlink net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 16:30 -0500, akonstam trinity edu wrote:
> It is a matter of download speed from a local machine versus a remote
> mirror. We update 60 machines so the time difference would be
> significant.

Something as simple as this:

# rsync -av ftp://SERVER/PATH/ /local/updates/

can be run from cron once or twice a day. Then you automatically have
*all* updates for that Fedora version on one box, downloaded exactly
once. And rsync will keep that directory updated for you.

All:

Just make sure the Server allows rsync.  I look at the mirrors.txt file at downloads.fedora.redhat.com and look for rsync BEFORE starting.  I know that mirrors.kernel.org does.  Otherwise you might not be able to get the files (at best) or get a nastygram from the system administrator that states you are attempting an unauthorized action towards/against their system (at worst).   In either case, you did not complete what you attempted.

James McKenzie


James McKenzie
A Proud User of Linux!



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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:06:38 +0100
From: PFJ <paul all-the-johnsons co uk>
Subject: Re: code of process scheduling
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1099062398 3220 5 camel jeeves music salford ac uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi,

>    i want to recompile kernel Fedora core 2 (linux 2.6.5-1.358).so, i
> need source code of Fedora core 2 (linux 2.6.5-1.358) kernel source
> code.please send me the url from where i could get it.

yum install kernel-sourcecode (IIRC)

The source which will come down won't be for the kernel you have though
as you're not running the current FC2 kernel which is what the
sourcecode package will be for.

TTFN

Paul
-- 
"If I face my God tomorrow, I can tell Him I am innocent.
I've never harmed anyone. I have cheated no one. 
I have deceived no one. I have hurt no one. 
Except myself. And that He will forgive me." - Hans Holzel
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:09:38 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
From: James Mckenzie <jjmckenzie51 earthlink net>
Subject: Re: code of process scheduling
To: abhijit kumar <kumarabhijit gmail com>,	For users of Fedora Core
	releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID:
	<18071635 1099062579486 JavaMail root huey psp pas earthlink net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

dear all!
   i want to recompile kernel Fedora core 2 (linux 2.6.5-1.358).so, i
need source code of Fedora core 2 (linux 2.6.5-1.358) kernel source
code.please send me the url from where i could get it.after a lot of
googling, unfortunately, i could n't get it. may i use the iso file
available with fedora core 2 rlease anyhow f.

Abhijit:

Should be available on the source disks, or available from download.fedora.redhat.com (and better mirror sites everywhere) in the /pub/fedora/linux/core/2/SRPMS directory.  The file name is kernel.2.6.5-1.358.src.rpm.

James McKenzie


James McKenzie
A Proud User of Linux!



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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:12:35 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
From: James Mckenzie <jjmckenzie51 earthlink net>
Subject: Re: code of process scheduling
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID:
	<25422922 1099062755410 JavaMail root huey psp pas earthlink net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

>    i want to recompile kernel Fedora core 2 (linux 2.6.5-1.358).so, i
> need source code of Fedora core 2 (linux 2.6.5-1.358) kernel source
> code.please send me the url from where i could get it.

yum install kernel-sourcecode (IIRC)

The source which will come down won't be for the kernel you have though
as you're not running the current FC2 kernel which is what the
sourcecode package will be for.

That will get the source for the current kernel, which he may/may not be running.  However, I gave him the directory to get the file from.  Of course, I always recommend running the latest stable kernel that does not cause problems (there are reports of 'breakage' with the latest Fedora Core 2 kernel and some processes.)

You can use yum to get other kernels and their sources.

James McKenzie


James McKenzie
A Proud User of Linux!



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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:14:36 -0600
From: "Rodolfo J. Paiz" <rpaiz simpaticus com>
Subject: Re: BIND 9 Problem - DNS Forwarding
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1099062876 3361 41 camel ip99 gt factorrent com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 11:34 +0700, Kh Linux wrote:
> Dear all:
> 
> I had been running both BIND 8 and Squid under SuSe 6.2 until recently when
> I switched to RedHat 9 with BIND 9 and Squid from the 3 CDs.
> 

Red Hat Linux 9 is very old now and no longer supported. I would
*really* suggest that you wait another week and install Fedora Core 3
when it is released.

Then I suggest you use a network analyzer like ethereal to figure out
what the traffic is. No amount of DNS traffic will fill a 1 Mbps pipe.
Squid does have logs, so you should be able to see whether it has a part
in the puzzle.

Cheers,

-- 
Rodolfo J. Paiz <rpaiz simpaticus com>
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:03:41 -0600
From: "Rodolfo J. Paiz" <rpaiz simpaticus com>
Subject: Re: FYI Livna.org drops x86_64 support
To: Jonathan Berry <berryja gmail com>,	For users of Fedora Core
	releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1099062261 3361 37 camel ip99 gt factorrent com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 23:59 -0500, Jonathan Berry wrote:
> I guess us x86_64 users are stuck using just the i386 repository from Livna now.
> Jonathan
> 

Or finding a new maintainer.

Cheers,

-- 
Rodolfo J. Paiz <rpaiz simpaticus com>
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:19:35 -0400
From: Yang Xiao <yxiao2004 gmail com>
Subject: Re: my background
To: Bao Cao <pearlsmm yahoo com>
Cc: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1cdafd0b041029081944d51a9f mail gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:47:02 -0700 (PDT), Bao Cao <pearlsmm yahoo com> wrote:
> All right, figured out.
> Warning: Yang, no more jokes....
> 
> Best,
take it easy already, sheesh.

Yang



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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:28:58 +0800
From: HaJo Schatz <hajo hajo net>
Subject: Re: Client upload of files via http
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1099063738 9573 41 camel moon hajo net>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 22:55, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 15:03 -0700, Eucke Warren wrote:
> > I have a potential customer who is looking to be able to upload and download
> > files via his and his clients browsers.  Is this something that lftp is
> > suited for....anything else that anyone is using that is secure and user
> > friendly?  Thoughts, risks, real world war/horror thoughts?  I am assuming
> > that most of the use will be via IE....
> > 
> 
> The friendliest (but still very secure) solution I have found is WinSCP.
> It is a nice and friendly Windows program with its own installer, where
> they open it up and get two directory windows side-by-side (obviously,
> one local and one remote). They then merely drag-and-drop from one side
> to another.
It's not http-based as the OP requested but I agree, I also favour this
option by far. However look at http://filezilla.sf.net, seems a bit more
attractive.


-- 
HaJo Schatz <hajo hajo net>
http://www.HaJo.Net

PGP-Key:  http://www.hajo.net/hajonet/keys/pgpkey_hajo.txt



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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:32:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Alan Mead <cubrewer yahoo com>
Subject: eM Bay Reader on FC1
To: fedora-list redhat com
Message-ID: <20041029153242 68851 qmail web40410 mail yahoo com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I have a Gateway with one of those multiple-media readers
(SD/DF/...).   In KDE's control panel, under information, the device
itself seems to be seen, attached to "USB UHCI Root Hub (4)"... Does
anyone know how I read media on this thing?

-Alan



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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:48:57 -0400
From: Matthew Miller <mattdm mattdm org>
Subject: Re: Dare I ask the question?
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <20041029144857 GA17859 jadzia bu edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Thu, Oct 28, 2004 at 06:07:04PM -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:
> Actually, the "when it's ready" policy died with Red Hat Linux 9. All
> Fedora Core schedules have been posted publicly. Just thought you'd like
> to know.

Plus, looking at the actual history of Red Hat Linux releases, the practical
policy has been "approximately every six months". (To within a week or to on
average.)

-- 
Matthew Miller           mattdm mattdm org        <http://www.mattdm.org/>
Boston University Linux      ------>                <http://linux.bu.edu/>



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Message: 18
Date: 29 Oct 2004 11:47:06 -0400
From: "C. Linus Hicks" <lhicks nc rr com>
Subject: Re: About "How do I make XMMS play MP3s?" from a new comer
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1099064825 930 3 camel lh2 linush net>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 09:55, Markus Huber wrote:
> So you obviously have not added the livna repository to your
> /etc/yum.conf.

I just noticed on the http://rpm.livna.org page this message:

"The merger between Fedora.us and Red Hat necessitated the removal of
certain problematic packages (including but not limited to mplayer,
xine, videolan-client and xmms-mp3) due to licensing issues or US
software patent."

-- 
C. Linus Hicks <lhicks nc rr com>



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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:58:33 +0300
From: Marius Andreiana <mandreiana rdslink ro>
Subject: Re: Need Help - Postfix, imap, pop, spamassissan, clamav,
	webmail
To: rick workcity ca, fedora <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1099065513 15683 8 camel marte biciclete ro>
Content-Type: text/plain

Hi Rick

See this
http://www.delouw.ch/linux/Postfix-Cyrus-Web-cyradm-
HOWTO/html/index.html

It's not specific to Fedora Core 2, please adapt it (e.g. install from
rpm not directly from sources or re-compile postfix source rpm)

For webmail use squirrelmail from development (or a FC3test release),
it's better than what FC2 has.

I've configured several servers with this setup for my company's
customers and it works. Use amavisd-new to interface postfix with
spamassassin/clamav. If you still need a configured server ready-to-go
and are willing to pay for it as you said, email me.

You should subscribe to web-cyradm list too, it's low traffic and
useful.

-- 
Marius Andreiana
Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania
http://www.galuna.ro



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