Advice for Red Hat/Fedora

Henning Larsen hennlar at
Fri Feb 22 22:55:48 UTC 2008

On Sat, 2008-02-23 at 08:35 +1030, Tim wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 15:01 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> > I do wish I had the choice to have a gnome free (as in `rpm -qa | grep
> > gnome` returns no results). 
> I wish the opposite, KDE free...  But leaving that war aside for the
> moment, it is annoying anytime that you come across an application that
> depends on you having a particular GUI system.  Even more so when you
> don't have it installed.  It'd be far less annoying if it could just
> draw windows, use sound, etc., etc., from whatever system you're using.
> In the past I'd had a bit of a play with some of the more lightweight
> window managers, only to discover how pointless that was the moment you
> fired up some application that made use of Gnome or KDE.  You had a big
> wait while all that baggage was loaded.  And it makes your system
> sluggish, negating the benefit of using a lighter weight system.  Not to
> mention if you fired up an application that decided it needed to take
> over your desktop.
Is there any initiative from anyone to get rid of these problems. I
don't want gnome, I don't want KDE, but I want krename and nautilus.

Could those and other programs get freed from KDE/Gnome?

I thought Linux is about openness not lockin like it is now.

Henning Larsen

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