Advice for Red Hat/Fedora

Arthur Pemberton pemboa at
Fri Feb 22 23:02:37 UTC 2008

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Henning Larsen <hennlar at> wrote:
>  On Sat, 2008-02-23 at 08:35 +1030, Tim wrote:
>  > On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 15:01 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>  > > I do wish I had the choice to have a gnome free (as in `rpm -qa | grep
>  > > gnome` returns no results).
>  >
>  > I wish the opposite, KDE free...  But leaving that war aside for the
>  > moment, it is annoying anytime that you come across an application that
>  > depends on you having a particular GUI system.  Even more so when you
>  > don't have it installed.  It'd be far less annoying if it could just
>  > draw windows, use sound, etc., etc., from whatever system you're using.
>  >
>  > In the past I'd had a bit of a play with some of the more lightweight
>  > window managers, only to discover how pointless that was the moment you
>  > fired up some application that made use of Gnome or KDE.  You had a big
>  > wait while all that baggage was loaded.  And it makes your system
>  > sluggish, negating the benefit of using a lighter weight system.  Not to
>  > mention if you fired up an application that decided it needed to take
>  > over your desktop.
>  >
>  Is there any initiative from anyone to get rid of these problems. I
>  don't want gnome, I don't want KDE, but I want krename and nautilus.
>  Could those and other programs get freed from KDE/Gnome?
>  I thought Linux is about openness not lockin like it is now.
>  Henning Larsen

I think that is an unrealistic goal, to be frank. You want apps tied
to each DE but not the DEs themselves. I want just one DE and I can
barely get that.

Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine
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