Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse
Steve Dowe
steve.dowe at onecool.com
Tue Jul 1 12:54:33 UTC 2008
I have this problem too.
Deron Meranda wrote:
> Okay, so Xorg ran away last night ... <snip>
> it should have been a completely idle unused system.
>
> Anyway, concerning the Xorg driver module, this is a brand new
> install of F9 (not an upgrade). All the software is part of the base F9
> repo; nothing 3rd party was added. Everything was auto-detected.
>
Ditto. I have the most up to date versions of X, etc at the time or
writing. Same kernel too (2.6.25.6-55.fc9.x86_64).
> The Xorg driver chosen for this was:
> /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//radeon_drv.so
>
> My screen is 1440 x 900 x 24, monitor is DELL E198WFP
>
Mine's 1680x1050. Using an HP Compaq 6715b laptop with ATI Radeon
Express X1250,
>> from level 3 boot, remove driver, then use 'yum install' to bring your
>> driver back in and reboot to load it. driver may be fried.
>>
>
> The driver is coming from the package xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.8.0-14.fc9.i386
> I did an rpm verify on it,
> rpm -V -v xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.8.0-14.fc9.i386
> and that said all the files were intact and correct.
>
Again, same. My drivers seem to be present and correct.
>
>> kde, gnome? have you tried any minimal desktops? something may, tho i
>> would doubt, be different in how you bring up x.
>>
>
> Haven't tried other desktops other than Gnome, but I have disabled
> all the fancy effects, etc.
>
>
I can confirm this occurs in both KDE and GNOME on my system.
> The system runs perfectly fine; until that magic moment when the
> Xorg process runs away. Or is that the kernel that is running away?
> I wish I knew how to debug the kernel better; because it just doesn't
> appear to be a user-space problem.
>
The cause of this problem on my system seems to be when dragging
(resizing) a window. X then seems to hang, the pointer gets jumpy and
the whole desktop is unresponsive. Being SSH'd in from another machine,
I could see Xorg at 99-100% CPU. This never seems to happen when
dragging a whole window, just when I try to resize one. I haven't
noticed this happening at all by using a scroll bar (but I'm not saying
this fault hasn't been triggered that way too..). The only way I can
recover is a hard reboot - holding down the power button. Issuing "init
6" or "reboot" makes no difference - it just hangs, which makes me think
this is kernel- rather than X-related.. :-(
I'm afraid I cannot offer the same diagnostics as Deron without a little
instruction, but I'd like to help to resolve this.. ;-)
FWIW, I'm downloading the debug flavour of the current kernel. I'm
going to reboot into that and see if I can get more output in the log(s)...
Is it possible that the Radeon driver can be triggering a bug in the
kernel (which hangs X)?
All the best,
Steve
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