[Fedora-livecd-list] Report On F-11 Beta With Orca

[Jeremy Katz]

On Tuesday, April 07 2009, Janina Sajka said:
> Jeremy Katz writes:
> > On Monday, April 06 2009, Janina Sajka said:
> > > *	My attempt to install F-11 from the Live desktop icon failed.
> > > *	All I could glean is that Orca had the installation screen
> > > *	listed as "inaccessible." This is on an x86_64 box using x86_64
> > > *	Live. It may not be there in i386.
> > > 
> > > 	I wqould like to help debug this, but not sure how to proceed.
> > 
> > The problem here (unfortunately) is that we have to run the install as
> > root.  But the session isn't running as root and hence you don't get any
> > of the a11y stuff.  
> > 
> > While an argument could be made that the work could be done to separate
> > out the frontend and backend of the install and do everything over dbus
> > or some other ipc, the root of the matter is that there are too many
> > other things in the installer pile that are likely to always end up
> > taking priority.  So the question is how can you get an app running as
> > root from consolehelper to work with the a11y technologies and then I
> > can try to push those tweaks as needed
> > 
> OK. I'll try and help chase down the latest and greatest advice on this.
> For starters:
> 
> *	I believe Ubuntu Live is doing it. I'll get their image and
> *	check.
> 
> *	Fedora's GUI Virt-Manager (System Tools) is doing it
> *	beautifully. While I'm still having problems learning to set up
> *	virtual machines, it's not for a11y reasons as this tool is
> *	working as it should--perhaps 95-98% of the screens. So,
> *	whatever virt-manager is doing in the gui, is the way to go. I,
> *	as the ordinary user, am prompted once (and accessibly) for
> *	root's passwd, and that's that.

virt-manager runs all of the UI as the user and then just communicates
with the local libvirt daemon for privileged bits.  That's the sort of
split that I don't really see making the priority list of the anaconda
team
 
> *	There's a page, not recently updated, on the Orca wiki on this
> *	topic:
> 	http://live.gnome.org/Orca/SysAdmin

This looks like it might do the trick although some testing is almost
certainly needed

Jeremy