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2009-08-03 - 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA recap

Full IRC transcript available at

= Attendees =

* James Laska (jlaska)
* J├│hann Gu├░mundsson (viking-ice)
* John Poelstra (poelcat)
* Jesse Keating (f13)
* Will Woods (wwoods)
* Denise Dumas (denise)
* Josh Boyer (jwb)
* Warren Togami (warren)

* Adam Williamson (adamw)
* David Pravec (dpravec)
* Kamil Paral (kparal)
* Liam Li (lili)
* He Rui (rhe)

= Agenda =

[https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-August/msg00031.html Proposed meeting agenda]

== Previous meeting follow-up ==

# [jlaska] - file bug against distribution for rawhide pungi problems
#* Filed and fixed.  See {{bz|514062}}
# [poelcat] - to send blocker bug meeting announce
#* Sent ... see
# [adamw] - to summarize blocker meeting
#* '''<FIXME>''' link to meeting summary
#* See
[http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2009-07-31/fedora-bugzappers.2009-07-31-15.01.html IRC transcript]
# [dpravec] - posting some fun ascii art for blocker bug meeting
#* Posted ... hilarity ensued (see minutes)
# [jlaska] - talk to warren about a rawhidewatch post on rpm xz
workaround for rawhide testers
#* Thanks Warren! ...
# [kparal] - investigate updates to Test Day livecd-creator instructions
#* Updated posted to [[QA/Test_Days/Create]] followed by discussion on

== Dracut rawhide testing update ==

Viking_ice updated the team with notes from his discussion on the
current state of Dracut with Harald Hoyer.

Harald, pjones, davej (kernel) and jwrdegoede (anaconda) are currently
investigating the swithover for rawhide.  They indicated the most common
setups should be operational and the target for the upcoming dracut test
day will be focusing on:
* networked root volumes (e.g. iscsi and fcoe)
* complex raid/lvm setups

f13 also informed the group that one of the hurdles to network root
volumes involved the ''%buildrequires'' of the kernel and firmware
that's packaged outside the kernel for network storage, network cards
and scsi cards.

Viking-Ice plans to stay in touch with Harald to keep on top of test
days and test case writing.

== In the news ==

=== Alpha test compose ===

Jlaska informed the team that it appears the udev issue blocking
installation last week was resolved with a patch from clumens and jeremy
http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=anaconda.git;a=commit;h=e6402846cae226519bfc34feb4f92b40d3bf0885).  There was some confusion as to whether this was the final approved fix.  Denise Dumas confirmed this was the fix agreed on by clumens and jeremy.

Question(s) to answer:
# When to build the test compose?
#* Jlaska took an action item to update the rel-eng test compose ticket
with current status (see https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/2016).
#* Jkeating took an action item to update the ticket so Liam can proceed
with community testing of the test compose.
# What impact does this have on the Alpha?
#* Jlaska suggested we will begin filling out the matrix but are behind
by 4 days.  I don't think this means a slip is required yet ... but it's
a good indicator if we begin to miss other alpha targets.

Once test compose is available, Liam Li has invited install testers to
contribute results against the upcoming Alpha Candidate.

* See
[https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00523.html mailing list announcement]
* See [[QA:Fedora_12_Install_Test_Plan]]
* See [[QA:Fedora_12_Alpha_Install_Test_Results]]

Upcoming release events:
* 2009-07-29 - '''<span style="color:#ff0000">MISSED</span>''' -
Alpha Test Compose]
* 2009-08-06 - Compose Alpha Candidate 
* 2009-08-06 - 2009-08-13 - Test Alpha Candidate
* 2009-08-10 - Alpha go/no_go 
* 2009-08-13 - Sync to mirrors

=== Alpha blocker bug day#4 ===

No alpha blocker meeting is scheduled for this Friday.  Given that the
test compose hasn't been built, do folks feel review of the forthcoming
blockers is desired?

Some discussion followed on the usefulness of a Friday blocker bug
meeting, and a Monday go/no go meeting.  In the end, the decision was to
host a Friday blocker bug meeting as has been done in the previous 3
Fridays.  Ideally, this should facilitate a faster go/no_go meeting on

* Jlaska will send out meeting announcement
* Poelcat agreed to help provide a meeting summary

== AutoQA update ==

Update from Will Woods on recent AutoQA efforts.  Last week wwoods
finished the remaining test of the 'installation' portion.  Which is to
say that we now have a test script that:
# downloads images
# starts a virt guest
# logs serial console output until loader / stage1 starts
# logs serial console output until stage2 gets loaded
# downloads all anaconda logs from guest as it runs the installation
# declares success if anaconda finds and formats the disks.
# declares failure if the guest either ...
#* goes silent for 60 seconds or more, or
#* takes more than ~10 minutes without finding the disks
#* if anaconda traces back

Next steps ...
# Continue documenting test writing instructions at [[Autotest]] (and
Talk page)
# Make it run automatically when we get a new rawhide
# Those results somewhere useful

== Open discussion ==

=== <your topic here> ===

No open discussion topics were raised.

= Upcoming QA events =

* 2009-08-04 - [[BugZappers/Triage_days]]
* 2009-08-06 -
Alpha Candidate Compose]
* 2009-08-10 - [[QA/Meetings/20090810]] at 16:00 UTC 

= Action items =

* <insert action item here>

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