[Fedora-trans-ar] Why Fedora installs all the world languages on my poor laptop?!

[sabdelg at redhat.com]

File a feature request :)

-Sherif


Quoting Mohamed Eldesoky <m.eldesoky at tedata.net>:

> Can we put more load on Fedora/RedHat packagers ??
> To isolate the language files of every package, and put them all in a 
> separate
> language RPM for every language ??
> I know, it wouldn't be a single RPM file...but we have to find a way really.
> Do you think we should post this upstream ?
>
>
> On Wednesday 17 August 2005 11:50 pm, sabdelg at redhat.com wrote:
>> Bring it on!
>>
>> Post a thread per bug, explain the bug, point a fix/patch.
>> Let us discuss them, and we can then open a bug to get it
>> fixed.
>>
>> Sherif
>>
>> Quoting Munzir Taha <munzirtaha at newhorizons.com.sa>:
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>> > في يوم الثّلاثاء 11 رجب 1426 20:11, كتب
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>> > sabdelg at redhat.com:
>> >> > Today I checked the Arabic locale .mo files by doing locate .mo. I was
>> >> > astonished to find my poor laptop doesn't only have Arabic and English
>> >> > languages installed but every language one can dream of. This makes a
>> >> > total of 332MB on my hard disk. Now I am going to remove them manually
>> >> > which is not something to be recommeded since it breaks package
>> >> > validation. Any one here knows why is this? Any solution? Should I
>> >> > tell Sherif to file a bug? ;)
>> >>
>> >> can you do the following against some of the .mo files:
>> >>
>> >> rpm -qf /path/to/file.mo
>> >
>> > Each rpm package contains all the languages packed within it. For
>> > example, rpm -qf locale/ru_RU/cups_ru_RU
>> > cups-1.1.23-15.1
>> >
>> >> I would like to know which RPM is installing the files, and if they
>> >> are all coming from one RPM.
>> >
>> > no not from one RPM
>> >
>> >> Also, if there is deps that is being
>> >> statisfied by installing these files befor we can say it should not
>> >> be there or it need to be fixed.
>> >
>> > I am not speaking about installing an input method for CJK or the like.
>> > Every package, every game, every screen saver ;) is installed with all
>> > the languages. If you can push things regarding to locales and glibc from
>> > inside redhat, then I would be happy to tell you about other
>> > arabic-related bugs where I feel the redhat guy there is not cooperative
>> > enough ;)
>> >
>> >> > Another point is I am missing the all the Arabic locales files like
>> >> > LC_TIME, LC_COLLATE, ... and hence I can't display the date in Arabic.
>> >> > There is is also no ar_xx locales for different Arabic countries -
>> >> > only a standard ar! May be I am missing something obvious?
>> >>
>> >> You wiwll need ar_xx if you have different translations for different
>> >> countries.
>> >> But as I can see it. For example, you have UK Vs. UK because there are a
>> >> team who is translating or providing the differnet version of certain
>> >> words from UK.
>> >> Hence, once we have different groups from different countries who
>> >> speaks arabic,
>> >> and they speak in different dialog and want different translation, you
>> >> can then
>> >> see or ask for different ar_xx :) (at least that's how I think it is)
>> >
>> > No Sherif, it's not like this. The point of different ar_xx is not mainly
>> > concerned with the Arabic language translation but with locales. In other
>> > words, the ar_xx folder should contain the files that correspond each
>> > country to it's numbers system, calendar system, .... For example, in
>> > Saudi Arabia, we use Hijri Calendar as an official calendar and we use
>> > Hindi numerals where as in Morocco they use Gregorian Calendar and Arabic
>> > numerals. The ar_xx should take care of all this with the LC_TIME and
>> > LC_NUMERIC. Say the same thing with regards to currency symbol, ...
>> >
>> > - --
>> > Munzir Taha
>> > Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer
>> > Maintainer of Fedora Arabic Translation Project
>> > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-ar
>> > Maintainer of the OpenBugs project page at
>> > http://www.arabic-fedora.org/munzir/OpenBugs.html
>> > Master CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS, Linux+, LPI 101
>> > New Horizons CLC, Riyadh, SA
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