[Freeipa-users] FreeIPA integrating samba4 + AD

Dmitri Pal dpal at redhat.com
Thu Sep 12 18:37:40 UTC 2013


On 09/11/2013 11:27 PM, Christovam Paynes Silva wrote:
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> 2013/9/11 Dmitri Pal <dpal at redhat.com <mailto:dpal at redhat.com>>
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>     On 09/11/2013 04:02 PM, Christovam Paynes Silva wrote:
>>     It is a pity!
>>     Thank you!
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>     I did not get a feeling that we understand the whole picture
>     correctly to say that we provided the full answer..
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>     What I get from the description:
>     1) Presence of Windows Clients = 100
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> Correct!
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>     2) Presence of AD to rule them
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> Correct!
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>     3) Presence of users (I deduce in AD too, but unclear) = 1000
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> Correct! Users are wirelessly. Use windows and linux without domain.
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>     Intent: use open source technologies instead of proprietary solution.
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> That's right!
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>     What is not clear:
>     a) Are the users that come through the portal the same users that
>     use Windows Clients or not? Is there an overlap?
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> Users are via wireless. Authenticate users on a "captive portal" with
> Squid. Customers are windows, linux and without domain.
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>     b) Is there any kind of Linux servers/machines in the picture?
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>
> This question was not clear to me.

FreeIPA is a domain controller for Linux/UNIX systems. It main value it
to manage Linux environment inside your enterprise. It can manage users
and groups too as any directory can. It can also authenticate users but
its value is in creating a integrated Linux environment in terms of
identity management. It seems that the setup you have does not actually
have such Linux environment, i.e. Linux machines to join to IPA domain
and manage.
The question was: "Do you have Linux systems to manage?".

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>     If you do not have Linux systems and all users can be stored in
>     one place it might be that you do not need FreeIPA. It might be
>     that you can solve the problem by using Samba4 instead of AD,
>     connecting your clients to it, putting your external portal users
>     into a special OU in Samba4, configuring FreeRADIUS to use this OU
>     for authentication. Configure your portal to use RADIUS.
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> Sorry, I may not have understood the concept of FreeIPA.
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> I would like to continue using the AD, because of Group Policy Objects
> (GPO).

You need to check whether Samba 4 supports GPO and to what extent.
http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/FAQ#Is_it_possible_to_set_user_specific_password_policies_in_Samba4_.28e._g._on_a_OU-base.29.3F

> It has the ability to authenticate email services, applications, among
> others directly in Samba4?

Yes as with any LDAP server but if you are planning to use AD than you
do not need Samba 4 either.
You then point your mail service and applications to AD directly.
Most of modern applications have some sort of LDAP integration for
identity lookup and authentication. That means you would be able to
point them to prety much any directory: AD, Samba4, IPA, 389 ...


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>     HTH
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>     Thanks
>     Dmitri
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>>     2013/9/11 Simo Sorce <simo at redhat.com <mailto:simo at redhat.com>>
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>>         On Wed, 2013-09-11 at 16:37 -0300, Christovam Paynes Silva wrote:
>>         > Hello Simo, thanks for the feedback.
>>         > I would use the Samba4 with AD and authenticate my clients
>>         windows in
>>         > FreeIPA.
>>         > Is this possible?
>>
>>         It is not possible at this point to combine Samba4 AD and
>>         freeIPA.
>>
>>         Simo.
>>         >
>>         > 2013/9/11 Simo Sorce <simo at redhat.com <mailto:simo at redhat.com>>
>>         >         On Wed, 2013-09-11 at 14:06 -0300, Christovam
>>         Paynes Silva
>>         >         wrote:
>>         >         > Hello!
>>         >         >
>>         >         >
>>         >         > First I apologize if this topic is redundant.
>>         >         >
>>         >         >
>>         >         > I'm looking on the implementation of FreeIPA .
>>         Looking for
>>         >         the
>>         >         > forums , have some comments that authentication
>>         does not
>>         >         work with
>>         >         > Samba4 . Elsewhere say that that possibility
>>         exists . Today
>>         >         we have
>>         >         > nearly 200 computers in the domain with the "Active
>>         >         Directory" and one
>>         >         > wireless "captive portal" with 1000 + proxy users .
>>         >         >
>>         >         > I would like to see if the following scenario is
>>         possible :
>>         >         > 1 - Integrating Samba4 with "Active Directory" ,
>>         to use
>>         >         their GPO and
>>         >         > authenticate network users through the FreeIPA .
>>         >         > 2 - Authenticate proxy servers in FreeIPA .
>>         >         > 3 - And if it is possible some integration with
>>         FreeRADIUS
>>         >         >
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >         Hi Christovam, it is a bit unclear what you mean by
>>         >         integrating here.
>>         >
>>         >         Is your intent to use Samba4 as an AD domain
>>         controller for
>>         >         your Windows
>>         >         client s and IPA for your servers ?
>>         >
>>         >         If that's the case unfortunately this is not
>>         possible at the
>>         >         moment as
>>         >         samba4 does not yet support Forest level trusts.
>>         >         A Microsoft AD server can be used this way instead.
>>         >
>>         >         Simo.
>>         >
>>         >         --
>>         >         Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York
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>>         --
>>         Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York
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>     Dmitri Pal
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>     Sr. Engineering Manager for IdM portfolio
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