[K12OSN] Which Windows apps stand in the way of Linux use at your school?

Terrell Prudé, Jr. microman at cmosnetworks.com
Tue Oct 4 21:59:04 UTC 2005


You're preachin' to the choir, Petre.  And no, sadly, it wouldn't do a
whit of good; in fact, it would probably do significant professional
harm to me if I even try showing it to them.  *That* is the real shame.

--TP

On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 09:40 -0500, Petre Scheie wrote:

> Have you shown them GimpShop?  (Not that it would do any good, from the sounds of it).
> 
> One question we, of my school's technical advisory committee, have been kicking around 
> for the past year or so is what we should be teaching kids, within the context of 
> computers, to give them the skills to not just get jobs, but to be able to create jobs, 
> create new companies.  The discussion was inspired by "The World is Flat" by Thomas 
> Friedman (who is from our city, coincidently), which some of you may be familiar with. 
> The book's premise--as I understand it; I haven't read it--is the question of how do you 
> create and keep good jobs in your community when seemingly most any technical job can be 
> done overseas for less money?
> 
> If your kids are only learning how to click on things, those skills can be easily 
> replaced by someone somewhere else who will do it for a lot less money.  If, on the 
> other hand, your kids learn about computing by working with tools they can 'take apart', 
> change, and share, they'll have a skillset of knowing how to build things, not just use 
> them.  Knowing how to build a house is a more valuable skill than how to live in a house 
> or than how to clean a house.
> 
> Back to GimpShop: The value of GimpShop is not just that it provides a free tool for 
> people coming from PhotoShop, but that it also demonstrates how OSS can be modified by 
> anyone to fill a need.  It also demonstrates how none of us is as strong as all of us: 
> The GimpShop mod was originally done on a Mac; someone else took the code and compiled 
> it for Linux; another person ported it to Windows.  OSS allows us to teach kids that 
> they can control their own destiny.
> 
> Petre
> 
> 
> Terrell Prudé wrote:
> > On Mon, 2005-10-03 at 10:09 -0700, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> > 
> >>On Mon, Oct 03, 2005 at 08:10:32AM -0400, Terrell Prudé, Jr. wrote:
> >>> In no particular order, here are the major apps that I know about that
> >>> our schools use.  Any one of these is, sadly, considered to be a show-
> >>> stopper.
> >>> 
> >><snip>
> >>> - KidPix
> >>> - Adobe Photoshop
> >><snip>
> >>
> >>Any reason Tux Paint and Gimp aren't suitable replacements for you?
> >>
> >>-bill!
> >>
> > 
> > Yes.  Because the administrators and management won't allow them to be.  
> > Sadly, the teachers are complicit in this lunacy.
> > 
> > --TP
> > 
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