[K12OSN] Thoughts on K12LTSP fading into the sunset

Lars Schade lars.schade at berlin.de
Sun Dec 12 14:56:49 UTC 2010


thanks for being so clear about the near term prospects of k12linux.
Though just like many others I am left disturbed and worried about the
future of LTSP on RH/fedora. I was expecting to be on the save side with
RHEL6 since it is based on f12/f13. And now you put into question
whether LTSP will ever work on RHEL6/f14. That leaves us with just a
6-month perspective of f13 as I understand.

Could you possibly point out just very briefly what the technical
hurdles in RHEL6/f14 are? Just so we get a feeling for whether it is a
general incompatibility (also applying to f15/f16...) or more of a
change requiring a though major but one-time modification to LTSP.

Back in September things sounded very promising but since reading your
recent mail I am really concerned about the future of LTSP in

But thanks again for the info, nothing is worse than planning on false


Am Freitag, den 10.12.2010, 10:43 +0000 schrieb Gavin Spurgeon:
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> On 10/12/10 01:00, Peter Scheie wrote:
> > I think Warren is still working for Red Hat, but is busy with other
> > things. Even so, his focus was never K12LTSP per se, but rather getting
> > LTSP 5 to work on RH systems, which he did with Fedora.  Getting LTSP 5
> > to work on Centos 5 was difficult if not impossible because Centos 5
> > just doesn't have all of the necessary pieces built in.
> Warren no longer works for Red Hat.
> > Gavin, who also works for RH I believe, is trying to pick up where
> > Warren left off.
> I have indeed been working on trying to pick things up. I managed to get
> LTSP working in F13 and published the .rpm's as well.
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=598134
> The big issue now is the Major changes in F14 are causing some issues
> trying to get LTSP working @ all. I am still working on this and have a
> friend who is also trying to help, But we are both also swamped with
> workloads that seem never ending.
> I aim is to have my .rpm's in the Official F13 Repos very early next
> year. and then work on seeing *if* LTSP will ever work on F14/RHEL6/CentOS6.
> We do have some Bugzilla's open for the work. So as soon as things calm
> down here @ work, I will get strait back on the LTSP Train.
> > (It would be nice if RH could offer official, paid support for LTSP
> > on RHEL 6, although I realize the business case may just not be
> > there.)
> This is a sad truth @ the moment...
> > Centos 6 will be along soon, although I don't think
> > anyone should be thinking they'll be able to switch to LTSP 5 on Centos
> > 6 over the Christmas break; it just won't be ready.  I think planning to
> > make a switch next summer is a more realistic timetable.
> With the issues in RHEL 6.0 I 110% agree with Peter here, I would also
> hold off a little while until the silly little issues have been worked
> out with RHEL 6.0 and 6.1 is released.
> > Peter
> > 
> > Barry Cisna wrote:
> >> Hello All,
> >>
> >> Just curious on what people's thoughts are of what appears to be K12LTSP
> >> distro fading into the sunset?. Kid of hate to see the ball dropped.
> >> Maybe I am missing something?...
> >> What ever became of Warren Tagaomi,that was to carry on
> >> k12ltsp,anyway?..
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