[Patternfly] FYI - Latest API Management UI
Jeremy Perry
jeperry at redhat.com
Tue Mar 25 17:53:10 UTC 2014
I know I’m coming out of nowhere with this, but I think looking seriously at 12px as a default is worth exploration. Aside from increased legibility, the number 12 has many benefits for creating a typographic rhythm on line heights like 1.25, 1.5 etc.
On Mar 25, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Matt Carrano <mcarrano at redhat.com> wrote:
> Catherine/Eric,
>
> Thanks for passing along the feedback. It is great to see these screens and to know that Overload is now using PatternFly styling. Also, good tip about the Rawgithub tool. I can see where this can be a really helpful thing.
>
> Regarding the font sizing, I can see what you mean about the 11pt text. This is a tricky issue because I find that readability depends a lot on monitor resolution and context. There's probably not one right answer for all cases, and this also varies a lot from person to person. That said, it's something for us to keep in mind and I appreciate getting the feedback. I'm copying in the PF list as others may also have thoughts who are more knowledgeable in this area than I.
>
> -Matt
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Catherine Robson" <crobson at redhat.com>
> To: "Matt Carrano" <mcarrano at redhat.com>
> Cc: "Eric Wittmann" <eric.wittmann at redhat.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:08:02 AM
> Subject: Fwd: Re: FYI - Latest API Management UI
>
> Matt,
>
> Eric is using the PatternFly font recommendations, but we both felt the
> font was too small to read easily. He noted that it was 11px by default
> (and is what he currently has implemented), but 12px seems to be much
> easier to look at. You can click on the link he provided below to see
> his application (without the top header area at this point).
>
> Thought I would forward this to you for feedback on PatternFly.
>
> Thanks!
> Catherine
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: FYI - Latest API Management UI
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 11:04:26 -0400
> From: Eric Wittmann <eric.wittmann at redhat.com>
> To: Catherine Robson <crobson at redhat.com>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> Regarding font size - it's funny, I thought it was too small as well,
> but the font size is coming from PatternFly (I think) so I assumed that
> was the recommended size. I'll def. change it.
>
> I may book an hour with you - would love some functional feedback.
>
> -Eric
>
> On 3/25/2014 10:48 AM, Catherine Robson wrote:
>>
>>
>> Eric Wittmann wrote:
>>> Just wanted to let you know that I have applied the PatternFly styles
>>> to my most recent project UI. I also discovered a web site called
>>> "rawgithub.com" which is amazing and allows me to view the UI
>>> templates as webpages directly from the github source! That's a super
>>> nerdy thing to be excited about, but I'm not ashamed. :P
>> This is very cool! I hate having to check stuff out and figure out how
>> to build it.
>>>
>>> In any case, it means you can view the UI here (if interested) without
>>> downloading or checking anything out:
>>>
>>> http://rawgithub.com/Governance/apiman/master/apiman-dt/apiman-dt-ui/apiman-dt-ui-war/src/main/java/org/overlord/apiman/dt/ui/client/local/site/user-orgs.html
>>>
>>>
>>> What you *won't* see is the header, which (like all overlord apps)
>>> gets added later via javascript. So it looks a little bare without
>>> that, but hopefully you'll get the idea. :)
>>>
>>> Also note that I tried to ensure that every page looks good in a
>>> browser but also in a phone - so that aspect of things should be
>>> working well.
>> Looking great!
>>>
>>> Any feedback welcome.
>>
>> The only feedback I have is that font is a bit small. You might want to
>> bump the body font size up to 12px instead of 11px. It makes it much
>> easier to read I think, and doesn't seem to ruin the design in any way
>> to me.
>>
>> Otherwise, from a design standpoint, I think this looks good. I have no
>> idea what it is supposed to be or do from a functional standpoint, so I
>> don't think I can comment on the usability or workflow really at this
>> point. If you want to review this level of stuff, maybe book an hour
>> with me and we can do a walkthrough of it together.
>>
>>>
>>> -Eric
>
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