[Patternfly] FYI - Latest API Management UI

[Matt Carrano]

Catherine/Eric,

Thanks for passing along the feedback.  It is great to see these screens and to know that Overload is now using PatternFly styling.  Also, good tip about the Rawgithub tool.  I can see where this can be a really helpful thing.

Regarding the font sizing, I can see what you mean about the 11pt text.  This is a tricky issue because I find that readability depends a lot on monitor resolution and context.  There's probably not one right answer for all cases, and this also varies a lot from person to person. That said, it's something for us to keep in mind and I appreciate getting the feedback.  I'm copying in the PF list as others may also have thoughts who are more knowledgeable in this area than I.

-Matt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Catherine Robson" <crobson at redhat.com>
To: "Matt Carrano" <mcarrano at redhat.com>
Cc: "Eric Wittmann" <eric.wittmann at redhat.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:08:02 AM
Subject: Fwd: Re: FYI - Latest API Management UI

Matt,

Eric is using the PatternFly font recommendations, but we both felt the 
font was too small to read easily.  He noted that it was 11px by default 
(and is what he currently has implemented), but 12px seems to be much 
easier to look at.  You can click on the link he provided below to see 
his application (without the top header area at this point).

Thought I would forward this to you for feedback on PatternFly.

Thanks!
Catherine

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Re: FYI - Latest API Management UI
Date: 	Tue, 25 Mar 2014 11:04:26 -0400
From: 	Eric Wittmann <eric.wittmann at redhat.com>
To: 	Catherine Robson <crobson at redhat.com>



Thanks for the feedback.

Regarding font size - it's funny, I thought it was too small as well,
but the font size is coming from PatternFly (I think) so I assumed that
was the recommended size.  I'll def. change it.

I may book an hour with you - would love some functional feedback.

-Eric

On 3/25/2014 10:48 AM, Catherine Robson wrote:
>
>
>  Eric Wittmann wrote:
>>  Just wanted to let you know that I have applied the PatternFly styles
>>  to my most recent project UI.  I also discovered a web site called
>>  "rawgithub.com" which is amazing and allows me to view the UI
>>  templates as webpages directly from the github source!  That's a super
>>  nerdy thing to be excited about, but I'm not ashamed.  :P
>  This is very cool!  I hate having to check stuff out and figure out how
>  to build it.
>>
>>  In any case, it means you can view the UI here (if interested) without
>>  downloading or checking anything out:
>>
>>  http://rawgithub.com/Governance/apiman/master/apiman-dt/apiman-dt-ui/apiman-dt-ui-war/src/main/java/org/overlord/apiman/dt/ui/client/local/site/user-orgs.html
>>
>>
>>  What you *won't* see is the header, which (like all overlord apps)
>>  gets added later via javascript.  So it looks a little bare without
>>  that, but hopefully you'll get the idea. :)
>>
>>  Also note that I tried to ensure that every page looks good in a
>>  browser but also in a phone - so that aspect of things should be
>>  working well.
>  Looking great!
>>
>>  Any feedback welcome.
>
>  The only feedback I have is that font is a bit small.  You might want to
>  bump the body font size up to 12px instead of 11px.  It makes it much
>  easier to read I think, and doesn't seem to ruin the design in any way
>  to me.
>
>  Otherwise, from a design standpoint, I think this looks good.  I have no
>  idea what it is supposed to be or do from a functional standpoint, so I
>  don't think I can comment on the usability or workflow really at this
>  point.  If you want to review this level of stuff, maybe book an hour
>  with me and we can do a walkthrough of it together.
>
>>
>>  -Eric