[PatternFly] modals and wizards -- should they be movable?

[Allie Jacobs]

I'm not sure if there's any harm other than the widget moving around
unexpectedly. But to Matt's point the use case for a modal would be one
where the user should not be trying to interact with the base page. I would
agree with updating PatternFly's modal documentation and possibly exploring
a separate pattern for a moveable dialog.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Mike Amburn <mamburn at redhat.com> wrote:

> I’m curious… what’s the harm in allowing modals to be moved?
>
> - allowing movement doesn’t alter the state of either the modal window or
> the background
> - no harm for 95% of the time when a user wouldn’t need to see information
> in the background
> - great benefit for the 5% that do
> - keeps the info displayed in the modal focused on the 95% with a
> workaround for the 5%
>
> No strong feelings either way, just thinking it through.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Liz Clayton <lclayton at redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Matt Carrano <mcarrano at redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It's an interesting question, Greg.  IMO, the reason for using a modal
>>> dialog should be to focus the user's attention on completing the task at
>>> hand before doing something else in the UI.  So in working from that
>>> premise, it begs the question of why someone needs the dialog to be
>>> movable.  If the concern is that it's covering content on the parent screen
>>> that the user needs in completing the task, then it seems like a modal is
>>> either the wrong solution or that information should be available from
>>> within the dialog.
>>>
>> +1
>>
>>>
>>> I'm also interested in what others think about this.  I wouldn't be in
>>> favor of making PatternFly modals movable unless there is a use case
>>> justification that we can point to.
>>>
>>
>> I guess if any of the dialogs warranted being modeless
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialog_box#Modeless> instead, then
>> allowing them to move would make sense. If not, then I agree that they
>> shouldn't need to move.
>>
>> It might be helpful to have some documentation for the "modal" widget in
>> Patternfly, that offered some usage best practices and clarify terms
>> (modal, modeless, dialog, overlay...) I found this little writeup useful:
>> https://uxplanet.org/5-essential-ux-rules-for-dialog-design-
>> 4de258c22116#.q1fizexrl .
>>
>> Liz C.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Greg Sheremeta <gshereme at redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> We recently implemented Patternfly styling on our modal dialogs, and
>>>> instantly received a bug [1] about them no longer being draggable.
>>>> According to a quick search, bootstrap's modals do not support dragging,
>>>> but that functionality could be added with jquery-ui [2]. According to [3],
>>>> it's not a great idea.
>>>>
>>>> oVirt is quite modal-dialog heavy, so I can see why users would want
>>>> this. We are in the planning stages of moving away from having so many
>>>> dialogs, so I'm not terribly worried about it. But I did think it was a
>>>> good idea to ask the list.
>>>>
>>>> So, what do people think about draggable modals?
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> Greg
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1434048
>>>> [2] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27120579/jquery-dragg
>>>> able-with-bootstrap-modal-scroller-strange-behaviour
>>>> [3] http://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/81134/should-modal
>>>> -dialogs-be-movable
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Greg Sheremeta, MBA
>>>> Red Hat, Inc.
>>>> Sr. Software Engineer
>>>> gshereme at redhat.com
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