[publican-list] Using internal links in pdf file in Publican

[Sitapati das Joshua J Wulf]

Thanks for the example Inna.

What about the case where your text read:

Refer to _Subsystems and Tunable Parameters_ for a description of which
parameters are mandatory for given subsystems.

Where _Subsystems and Tunable Parameters_ is the chapter title injected
into the sentence. Does that suffer from the same (or a different) problem,
or would it solve it in this case?

- Josh


On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Inna Kabanova
<ikabanova at russianfedora.ru>wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > For the translation issue, I speak Spanish, and I'm not clear on what
> > you're describing here.
> >
> > Do you have an example to illustrate this?
> >
> > It's of interest to me, because I have a brand that does this.
> >
> > - Josh
>
> In Russian I face with this issue very often because of declensional
> endings.
>
> == Example (from Fedora Resource Management Guide) ==
> English:
>   Refer to _Chapter 3, Subsystems and Tunable Parameters_ for a
> description of which parameters are mandatory for given subsystems.
> Russian (as I want to translate):
>   Описание того, какие из параметров подсистем являются обязательными,
> приведено в _ГлавЕ 3, Подсистемы и параметры настройки_.
> -----
> But the <xref> output in Russian is "ГлавА 3, ...", so the last letter
> (declensional ending) in the word "Глава" ("Chspter" in Russian) is
> different from the last letter from my example ("ГлавЕ 3, ..."). And the
> translators always have to find the way to translate such sentences to make
> them look like Russian ones (not "English in Russian").
>
> But in this case translator know the first word ("chapter","section") at
> least. If the document author removes the first word from <xref> output the
> translators will not be able to find out what the title will be added
> instead of <xref> link.
>
> I don't know whether there is such issue in Spanish.
>
> P.S. I hope my example is plain enough.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Inna Kabanova / Russian Fedora Team
> ru.fedoracommunity.org
>
>
> >
> > ~ Kirtan is Life! ~
> > Sent from my Mobile Device
> >
> > On 16/11/2012, at 4:17 PM, Jeffrey Fearn <jfearn at redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> To get just the title with no location meta-data, do:
> > >>
> > >> <xref xrefstyle="select:title" linkend="targetid"/>
> > >>
> > >> This doesn't allow arbitrary text, but it does get rid of the
> > >> "section
> > >> X.Y" piece.
> > >
> > > Note this makes translation more difficult in languages that have
> > > grammatical gender, such as Spanish and every Slavic language.
> > >
> > > If something points to a chapter and you know the first word in the
> > > title is going to be the localises word for Chapter, then a lot of
> > > times you can get away without know what the translated title is.
> > > However if you have no clue what the title is going to be then you
> > > have to manually track down what the translated title is. AFAIAA
> > > there are no translation tools that present the translated text
> > > for you :(
> > >
> > > And if someone changes the title, then you actually have to
> > > manually back track this in the translation as none of the links
> > > to the translated title will be marked as fuzzy.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Jeff.
> > >
> > > --
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