[Pulp-list] [Pulp-dev] Github Discussions

Mon Aug 30 13:00:24 UTC 2021

I've taken down Github Discussions. It looks like Github stores the
Discussions though so I can still re-enable them temporarily if anyone
needs info, etc.

David

On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 2:44 PM David Davis <daviddavis at redhat.com> wrote:

> AFAICT, there's no way to make discussions readonly so any discussions not
> migrated over won't be accessible although I think we can still get to them
> by temporarily enabling Discussions.
>
> Looks like mcorr already migrated over your thread. :)
>
> David
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 2:01 AM Quirin Pamp <pamp at atix.de> wrote:
>
>> Will it still be possible to read old discussion threads?
>>
>> If no, I would like it if this one could be migrated (for the conclusions
>> reached in the thread):
>>
>> https://github.com/pulp/community/discussions/73
>>
>> Quirin (quba42)
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: pulp-dev-bounces at redhat.com <pulp-dev-bounces at redhat.com> on
>> behalf of David Davis <daviddavis at redhat.com>
>> Sent: 23 August 2021 15:30
>> To: Melanie Corr
>> Cc: pulp-list; Pulp Development List
>> Subject: Re: [Pulp-dev] [Pulp-list]  Github Discussions
>>
>> If no one objects, I will be retiring Pulp's Github Discussions by
>> September 1st. It seems like the options we are considering going forward
>> are either staying on the mailing lists or moving to Discourse.
>>
>> If you need something migrated over to Discourse from Github Discussions,
>> please let me know.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 9:55 AM Melanie Corr <mcorr at redhat.com<mailto:
>> mcorr at redhat.com>> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Based on your feedback, we now have a Pulp Community Discourse:
>> https://discourse.pulpproject.org/
>>
>> This is still a continuation of our evaluation of whether to move away
>> from the mailing list as a primary communication method. We need you to
>> tell us if this is helpful.
>>
>> We will wrap up any discussions that remain open on our GitHub
>> Discussions page and migrate any open discussions.
>>
>> I'm getting everything ready. Please feel free to make suggestions.
>>
>> Please join us over on Discourse!
>>
>> Melanie
>>
>> Ar Aoine 18 Meith 2021 ag 17:01, scríobh Melanie Corr <mcorr at redhat.com
>> <mailto:mcorr at redhat.com>>:
>> Having been an admin on the Foreman Community Discourse for over a year,
>> I am +1 to a using Discourse for community conversations.
>> Greg Sutcliffe has data to prove the increase in community engagement
>> after the move.
>>
>> Ar Aoine 18 Meith 2021 ag 16:33, scríobh Daniel Alley <dalley at redhat.com
>> <mailto:dalley at redhat.com>>:
>> And Matrix integration.
>> https://meta.discourse.org/t/chatroom-integration-plugin-discourse-chat-integration/66522
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 1:11 PM David Davis <daviddavis at redhat.com
>> <mailto:daviddavis at redhat.com>> wrote:
>> I was rather surprised but Discourse did approve us for a free plan. The
>> instance has been set up at https://pulp.discourse.group/. Feel free to
>> try it out and experiment with it.
>>
>> However, the main limitation I see is the 50k pageviews per month limit.
>> For reference, community.theforeman.org<http://community.theforeman.org>
>> gets about 160-220k pageviews per month. So I think this would end up being
>> a problem. I also checked with OSCI though and they apparently have
>> experience with setting up Discourse instances for other open source
>> communities. So I think they might be willing to set up a Discourse
>> instance for us. I'm going to follow up and confirm.
>>
>> If we go this route, then we can also add the calendar plugin which would
>> give us a public calendar like foreman has:
>>
>> https://community.theforeman.org/c/events/13/l/calendar
>>
>> I'm imagining we can use this to list events that are open to the public
>> like triage/open floor and perhaps plugin team meetings.
>>
>> The more I use Discourse, the more I feel like it ticks all the boxes
>> from granular notifications (weekly digests, ability to follow/unfollow
>> categories, etc) to a mailing list mode users can enable to SSO integration
>> with services like Github.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 7:59 PM Neal Gompa <ngompa13 at gmail.com<mailto:
>> ngompa13 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 7:21 PM David Davis <daviddavis at redhat.com
>> <mailto:daviddavis at redhat.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > One of the main reasons we wanted to move off mailing lists is that
>> signing up is inconvenient for users that may just want to ask a single
>> question. But I agree that Github Discussions is not so great if users want
>> to periodically monitor news and discussions for a project like Pulp. I
>> wonder perhaps if Discourse[0] would be a better fit (see Foreman's use of
>> discourse as an example[1]). It provides a mailing list mode that users can
>> enable if they want to interact solely via email. And also, it also offers
>> more granular control of notifications and auth with services like Github.
>> >
>>
>> The Fedora mailing list system (HyperKitty) actually manages to strike
>> a good balance here. You can sign in with OIDC/Social Login with
>> Fedora, Google, etc. and post to a list and only be subscribed to that
>> thread. Or you can subscribe to the whole list and do things like we
>> do now.
>>
>> > One of the main concerns we've had around using Discourse is hosting it
>> ourselves but it does look like Discourse provides a free plan for open
>> source projects[2]. It has some limitations (not sure if they'd be an issue
>> for us?) but I've submitted an application to see if we qualify. I should
>> hear back in a couple days.
>> >
>>
>> I suspect not, but it'd be an interesting surprise if we qualified.
>>
>>
>>
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