[rhelv6-list] [rhelv6-beta-list] RHEL7 mailing list

Brian Long (brilong) brilong at cisco.com
Tue Apr 22 13:31:01 UTC 2014


I concur.  What if we set up a rhelv7-list at anotherdomain.com<mailto:rhelv7-list at anotherdomain.com>?  I’m thinking Red Hat might get the hint if a bunch of us subscribe to this list and start discussing the new release.  :)

/Brian/
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On Apr 22, 2014, at 8:55 AM, francis picabia <fpicabia at gmail.com<mailto:fpicabia at gmail.com>> wrote:

My response on this topic is an observation for which I think many of you
can concur.
Mailing lists include informed replies, and are usually answered.
Forums tend to include misinformed responses, silly solutions
like "I installed Gentoo and the problem went away", and postings with no
replies.
My all time favourite is the posting with the exact problem you've seen and
the
OP simply posts: "never mind, the problem is resolved".

For example, if I google a problem and a link for a match is pointing to
Ubuntu forums,
I don't even bother looking at it - the quality is so low, and so many
postings are unresolved.



On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 11:56 AM, solarflow99 <solarflow99 at gmail.com<mailto:solarflow99 at gmail.com>> wrote:

I think a separate list for EL7 may not really be necessary, but I sure
hope mailing lists will continue, I'd really hate to see that go.

When I look at forums, there's a lot of activity in Fedora, I guess the
younger generation prefers not using email as much?   :)
The ML's have always been more of a keeping in touch with things for me,
rather than a than a tool to search for bugs/solutions



On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Bryan J Smith <b.j.smith at ieee.org<mailto:b.j.smith at ieee.org>> wrote:

I do not speak for anyone but m myself, a 20 year Linux Professional
involved with many projects.

All I stated is that capture and reuse works very well via other avenues.
Mailing lists get more limiting, and consistently revisit issues, at
10-25K+ users. Sun and Linux Managers mitigate this with a reply
off-list/Summary on-list approach.

Although I did find it humorous when at least two individuals stated they
did not care for Bugzilla. Kinda made my point for me. ;)
On Apr 18, 2014 11:34 AM, "R P Herrold" <herrold at owlriver.com<mailto:herrold at owlriver.com>> wrote:

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On Fri, 18 Apr 2014, Eugene Vilensky wrote:

Forgive me for not reading the entirety of last-year's discussion on
the issue, but is it fair statement at this point that Red Hat, Inc.
won't be hosting a new mailing list for RHEL7 specific discussion?

http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo

The 'trailhead' for that discussion was over here:

https://www.redhat.com/archives/rhelv6-beta-list/2013-December/thread.html

and I came away with the conclusion that at Least Bryan J
Smith (for whom I have great respect in some matters) who is
at Red Hat) was strongly advocating for a migration to other
support venue

Problem as I see it is that some such venue do ,and some do
not leave 'breadcrumbs' that others can follow and read, and
major search engines find hidden nuggets in.  The thread
petered out, and as you remark, no list for '7' (assuming for
the sake of argument that which will be its name) has appeared

Also the Red Hat acquisition and rework of the formerly
independent CentOS communication venue seems substantially
complete.  A later post also cites dissappointment as to
information density

No big deal.  I would rather light a candle than curse the
darkness.  This will be my only post here on this matter

Please feel free to join the mailing list at:
       http://lists.clefos.org/mailman/listinfo/enterpriseseven-list
if you are interested in the approach of an independent
mailing list on the next major enterprise OS product (binary
and 'from sources' rebuilds) from our host.  I would hope to
run it with civility and to stay close on topic.  As need
admits, additional lists are of course possible, but by and
large, I hope that the RHEL and CentOS mailing lists venues
will suffice for the next major release

- -- Russ herrold

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