[Spacewalk-list] RedHat Subscriptions Management deploying Spacewalk

Wed Mar 8 18:16:59 UTC 2017

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On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:18 PM, <rosario.mattera at accenture.com> wrote:

> Hello Waldirio,
>
> thanks a lot for your exhaustive explanation. Now the overall management
> is clear.
>
>
>
> Definitely, if I understand well, what I see in my deployment (managing
> all the Linux hosts – RHEL, CENTOS, SLES, Debian) is that using Spacewalk I
> do not need to install the smart management addon on the RHEL hosts neither
> to purchase the Satellite subscription. The difference between a Satellite
> or a Spacewalk deployment is just the support on the Management platform
> itself. Please, correct me if I’m wrong.
>

Not only support, there are another points in the product *which you don't
have to do manually* and a lot of another benefits, like knowledge base,
support 24x7, etc etc etc

>
>
> Regarding
>
> - With Spacewalk (deployed on a RedHat registered host), will I see only
> the Spacewalk server registered on my RedHat Account?
> A: Independent of product installed in your rhel, you will be able to see
> the server via webUI / customer portal.
>
> so I can see all the RHEL registered hosts via customer portal. Is it
> right?
>

Nops, as you said, you will see only your RHEL which you have installed the
SW, all machines registered on SW will not be visible via webUI / access
portal. Will be available via Spacewalk webUI only.

>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rosario
>
> *From:* spacewalk-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:spacewalk-list-
> bounces at redhat.com] *On Behalf Of *Waldirio Manhães Pinheiro
> *Sent:* mercoledì 8 marzo 2017 12:55
>
> *To:* spacewalk-list at redhat.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Spacewalk-list] RedHat Subscriptions Management deploying
> Spacewalk
>
>
>
> Hello Rosario
>
> I'll share another points to you and on sequence I'll answer your
> questions.
>
> Let's imagine the scenario, you have 100 rhel servers and you would like
> to register / update all of them, when talking about Satellite, will be
> necessary one addon named *smart management* and you have to pay for this
> to all your servers although when talking about SW this one come with the
> project, then, will be possible to you register 100 rhel's in your SW
> without problem, on this scenario you will be compliance., now let's
> imagine, you have 100 rhel subscriptions but you will register 200, you can
> register one huge number of clients on your SW without problem, but the
> point is, if you have 100 rhel subscription, you should register on your SW
> only 100, if you need 200, should be necessary by +100 subscriptions.
> Technically talking you will not be blocked from SW to register new
> clients, this is only one legal term that you need take care, if you read
> the contract, you will see, you can use RHN, Satellite or another way to
> keep your environment up to date, there isn't restriction BUT the number of
> subscription is one limiter.
>
> That said, you can download your rhel 6.8 or rhel 7.3 packages for
> example, create one base channel on your satellite and just upload all
> packages, after this will be possible define this base channel to your
> client and voilá, you will be able to reach packages from SW. Remember, to
> keep erratas up to date, will be necessary do additional steps. To sync
> different versions of rhel in your SW will be necessary additional scripts
> or diff ways to download and then upload in your SW.
>
>
>
> - Without Spacewalk, on my RedHat account I can see all the hosts
> registered on RHN belonging to that account. They are supported by RedHat
> under the SLA described in the contract service, aren’t they?
>
> A: Yeap, if you have one subscription with a valid status, sure, you can
> just open a new case and Red Hat will help you.
>
>
> - With Spacewalk (deployed on a RedHat registered host), will I see only
> the Spacewalk server registered on my RedHat Account?
> A: Independent of product installed in your rhel, you will be able to see
> the server via webUI / customer portal.
>
> - How can I manage all other hosts?
> A: This management will be via SW
>
> - Are they under the RedHat support as without the Spacewalk deployment?
>
> A: As I told you, if you have 100 subsc and you are using SW just to
> manager your environments, doesn't matter, you can ask for support to all
> of them, now if you need Spacewalk support, this one will not be supported
> by Red Hat.
>
>
>
> I believe now be clear. :-)
>
>
>
> Let me know if you have any additional question.
>
>
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> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 7:08 AM, <rosario.mattera at accenture.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you Waldirio,
>
> when I say “I’ve the subscriptions for all my RedHat hosts” I mean that
> I’ve signed a contract with RedHat in order to be able to register on
> RHN/RHMS all the RHEL hosts I provision on my own infrastructure. Nowadays,
> not all of those hosts are registered, but the Spacewalk deployment has
> been planned to avoid the hosts to go massively on Internet to download
> updates. Thus, I’m going to register these hosts on Spacewalk.
>
>
>
> From you response I see that technically it’s possible to manage RedHat
> hosts via Spacewalk, even if some scripts are needed, but my doubt is about
> the management of entitlements. There are two scenario but I don’t know
> which is actually the behavior. I’m trying to figure out here a recap
> looking for a confirmation:
>
>
>
> -         Without Spacewalk, on my RedHat account I can see all the hosts
> registered on RHN belonging to that account. They are supported by RedHat
> under the SLA described in the contract service, aren’t they?
>
> -         With Spacewalk (deployed on a RedHat registered host), will I
> see only the Spacewalk server registered on my RedHat Account?How can I
> manage all other hosts?Are they under the RedHat support as without the
> Spacewalk deployment?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Rosario
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* spacewalk-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:spacewalk-list-
> bounces at redhat.com] *On Behalf Of *Waldirio Manhães Pinheiro
> *Sent:* mercoledì 8 marzo 2017 05:02
> *To:* spacewalk-list at redhat.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Spacewalk-list] RedHat Subscriptions Management deploying
> Spacewalk
>
>
>
> Hello Rosario, good morning
>
>
>
> Well, you can do this configuration for your environment btw I would like
> to share some points with you. Using SW you can register your RHEL clients
> and manage everything although will be necessary sync the rpm packages /
> repositories from Red Hat and add this one on your Satellite. There are
> some scripts to do this action or you could create your own scripts, I
> believe you can find on our history.
>
>
>
> Once you said *I’ve the subscriptions for all my RedHat hosts* I believe
> you have *smart management addon* to all your RHEL servers, that's correct
> ? If yes, I really recommend you align with your red hat sales just to
> check the Satellite subscription. Why ? the answer is simple, using
> Satellite, there are a lot of steps that satellite will do for you, like
> sync red hat repos and erratas will be *automatically* without necessity to
> do manually, when talking about SW, you can do this but will be necessary
> implement some or some time a lot of scripts / execute some steps manually.
>
>
>
> I wrote one book about SW and there you can find some points about your
> questions *http://www.brasport.com.br/informatica-e-tecnologia/
> linux/spacewalk-o-projeto-do-red-hat-satellite/*
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>
>
> Let me know if you have any additional question about it.
>
>
>
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> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 2:20 PM, <rosario.mattera at accenture.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I’m trying to configure a Spacewalk server to manage RedHat hosts. I’ve
> the subscriptions for all my RedHat hosts, but I don’t know how I can
> manage the subscriptions once all the hosts will be registered on the
> Spacewalk server rather than the RHN/RHMS. Could someone give me further
> details on this? I don’t know if a Satellite subscription is mandatory,
> even because I’ll use Spacewalk to manage other Linux distributions too,
> such as CentOS, SLES, Debian.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rosario
>
>
>
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