[virt-tools-list] [PATCH virt-viewer 1/3] display: repurpose zoom property, rename it scale

Marc-André Lureau mlureau at redhat.com
Fri Feb 28 11:33:10 UTC 2014



----- Original Message -----
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marc-André Lureau" <mlureau at redhat.com>
> > To: "Jonathon Jongsma" <jjongsma at redhat.com>
> > Cc: "Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau at gmail.com>,
> > virt-tools-list at redhat.com
> > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:24:41 AM
> > Subject: Re: [virt-tools-list] [PATCH virt-viewer 1/3] display: repurpose
> > zoom property, rename it scale
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > I'm not convinced that this 'scaling' option is really a useful feature.
> > > I find it a bit confusing to have these two checkboxes with very similar
> > > names right next to eachother in the menu ("scale display" / "resize
> > > display").  It's not intuitive what the effect of each option would be.
> > > It also seems like very few people would ever want to disable automatic
> > > scaling...
> > 
> > In some cases, the guest can't be resized, and scaling can introduce
> > undesired bluriness and artifacts. The bug that triggered this:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1054757
> > 
> > > 
> > > On top of the above issues, the support for this feature is incomplete
> > > because of several issues.  Reference this screenshot:
> > > 
> > >   http://jjongsma.fedorapeople.org/vv-no-scaling.png
> > > 
> > > As you can see, if you resize the window smaller than the guest display
> > > size, it becomes unusable because:
> > > A) there are no scrollbars to access the parts of the display outside of
> > > the window
> > 
> > Right, I didn't think enough about that. Perhaps it could embed the display
> > in GtkScrolledWindow.
> > 
> > > B) instead of displaying as much of the unscaled display as possible, it
> > > maintains the aspect ratio of the guest display, which makes no sense in
> > > this case.
> > 
> > that sounds also like a bug that could be easily fixable
> > 
> 
> Right, I wasn't trying to say that these are insurmountable issues.  But even
> with these issues resolved, the bigger issue still remains. I think the
> uncertainty and confusion added by having these two very similar-sounding
> options in the menu outweighs the very limited benefit we get from adding
> this feature that very few people will use. As a matter of fact, I went back
> and looked at the app again and I had to think for about 10 seconds before I
> remembered which option was supposed to do what.  Perhaps there's a way to
> present this feature in a way that is more intuitive, but I don't support
> adding it in its current form.

I can imagine some confusion, so we can also try to make it easier to understand. For example, "scale display" and "resize desktop" are perhaps better naming. Adding a tooltip could also help, with explanations like "Scales the local display" and "Changes the remote desktop resolution".

The alternative is to remove it from the menu, and just have a command line argument --no-scaling, ?
 
> 
> Jonathon
> 
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