[zanata-users] Zanata's "translate" instance is unreachable

Mon Apr 29 06:53:12 UTC 2019

Everybody knows how project closure is being done. There should be an
announcement of the project closure, deadline for people to move to other
platforms etc...
This is a disgrace for RedHat to handle it like this...

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 2:37 AM Frank Kloeker <eumel at arcor.de> wrote:

> Am 2019-04-28 11:46, schrieb Benson Muite:
> > On 4/28/19 12:38 PM, Mario Blättermann wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Am So., 28. Apr. 2019 um 10:51 Uhr schrieb Benson Muite
> >> <benson_muite at emailplus.org>:
> >>> Unclear if there will be much further activity. Zanata.org is
> >>> registered to Redhat. Code is open though under LGPL, so in
> >>> principle, one can continue with updates and development.
> >>>
> >> Yes, of course. But I'm neither able nor willing to continue the
> >> development. I'm afraid most of the translators lack of that skills,
> >> so I don't assume someone picks it up. Moreover, who knows how much
> >> longer Redhat is willing to provide the server infrastructure… Well,
> >> some core translations like those from Fedora or the RPM development
> >> are still maintained at Zanata, but one day also Redhat will need
> >> another solution.
> >
> > Ok. Community projects typically need a community. Maybe a survey with
> > questions such as the ones below would be helpful:
> >
> > a) How many people are using Zanata
> >
> > b) How many people are using Zanata and could support some open source
> > development of Zanata?
> >
> > c) How many people have used Zanata and want to transition to another
> > platform?
>
> I'm afraid, but Zanata wasn't a community project. Dedicated full time
> developer worked on the software on behalf of RedHat.
> We as OpenStack community are using Zanata currently. But we are not
> able to takeover the project. Zanata is written in Java and we haven't
> such kind of programming skills in our community. Sorry.
>
> Frank
>
> >>
> >>> On 4/27/19 11:30 PM, Nedim Laletovic wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>> does anybody know who can we contact in regards to the future plans
> >>> for Zanata, so we can find out if this project is officially dead...
> >>>
> >> Normally, I recognize this mailing list as *the* contact channel. But
> >> neither the (vanished) Zanata development team nor anyone from Redhat
> >> didn't respond yet. No matter if official or unofficial, Zanata is
> >> dead, or at least dies a slow death.
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Mario
> >>
> >>> On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 8:04 PM Mario Blättermann
> >>> <mario.blaettermann at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Hi Frank,
> >>>>
> >>>> Am Sa., 27. Apr. 2019 um 16:45 Uhr schrieb Frank Kloeker
> >>>> <eumel at arcor.de>:
> >>>>> Am 2019-04-27 13:02, schrieb Mario Blättermann:
> >>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Berkay Koç <uppercut733 at hotmail.com> schrieb am Sa., 27. Apr.
> >>>>>> 2019,
> >>>>>> 12:34:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It's been a few days since the translate.zanata.org [1] doesn't
> >>>>>>> respond.
> >>>>>>> Me and my team haven't been able to perform any translations
> >>>>>>> since
> >>>>>>> our documents were on that server.
> >>>>>>> What's going on? When will it be open again?
> >>>>>> This happened already a few weeks ago, and after a few days the
> >>>>>> web
> >>>>>> interface was back again.
> >>>>>> But it was very annoying for both translators and project
> >>>>>> maintainers,
> >>>>>> and for no one of the Zanata admins it was worth a message about
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> reasons why it happened, and when we might expect to use it again.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Some time ago, translation projects (even really big ones) were
> >>>>>> moved
> >>>>>> from Transifex to Zanata. But given the continuing problems, it
> >>>>>> would
> >>>>>> be time to think about leaving Zanata. In fact, I can use it only
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>> a workaround anyway, because *.ts files from my Qt based project
> >>>>>> are
> >>>>>> not handled properly. The current up-and-down rhythm of the
> >>>>>> translation interface would then be the second reason to move to
> >>>>>> another platform.
> >>>>> Please keep in mind there is no Zanata maintenance team anymore.
> >>>>> Their
> >>>>> are gone some months ago. There isn't any official statements from
> >>>>> IBM
> >>>>> or RedHat about the project status. I wouldn't say, you have to
> >>>>> move,
> >>>>> but backup your data on a daily base could ba a good idea :)
> >>>>>
> >>>> Good to know… Indeed, the last commit to the Github repo was almost
> >>>> eight months
> >>>> ago. I should look for an alternative soon. The issue with the not
> >>>> fully
> >>>> supported *.ts files is really annoying enough (all such files will
> >>>> be
> >>>> internally converted into *.po files, and after syncing I have to
> >>>> convert them
> >>>> back), but if I don't know if Zanata tomorrow will be reachable,
> >>>> then it's not
> >>>> mine anymore.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best Regards,
> >>>> Mario
> >>>>
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