[zanata-users] Zanata's "translate" instance is unreachable

Mon Apr 29 12:37:44 UTC 2019

Hi All,

Apologies for the late reply but I've been out for the past few days. My
team had in the past been stewarding the project and engaging with the
different communities, but everyone on the team has either left Red Hat or
has been reassigned to other projects.

I have been reaching out to other groups inside of Red Hat hoping to get
someone to take stewardship of the project, but so far there hasn't been
any solid traction.

Carlos

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 2:53 AM Nedim Laletovic <nedim.laletovic at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Everybody knows how project closure is being done. There should be an
> announcement of the project closure, deadline for people to move to other
> platforms etc...
> This is a disgrace for RedHat to handle it like this...
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 2:37 AM Frank Kloeker <eumel at arcor.de> wrote:
>
>> Am 2019-04-28 11:46, schrieb Benson Muite:
>> > On 4/28/19 12:38 PM, Mario Blättermann wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> Am So., 28. Apr. 2019 um 10:51 Uhr schrieb Benson Muite
>> >> <benson_muite at emailplus.org>:
>> >>> Unclear if there will be much further activity. Zanata.org is
>> >>> registered to Redhat. Code is open though under LGPL, so in
>> >>> principle, one can continue with updates and development.
>> >>>
>> >> Yes, of course. But I'm neither able nor willing to continue the
>> >> development. I'm afraid most of the translators lack of that skills,
>> >> so I don't assume someone picks it up. Moreover, who knows how much
>> >> longer Redhat is willing to provide the server infrastructure… Well,
>> >> some core translations like those from Fedora or the RPM development
>> >> are still maintained at Zanata, but one day also Redhat will need
>> >> another solution.
>> >
>> > Ok. Community projects typically need a community. Maybe a survey with
>> > questions such as the ones below would be helpful:
>> >
>> > a) How many people are using Zanata
>> >
>> > b) How many people are using Zanata and could support some open source
>> > development of Zanata?
>> >
>> > c) How many people have used Zanata and want to transition to another
>> > platform?
>>
>> I'm afraid, but Zanata wasn't a community project. Dedicated full time
>> developer worked on the software on behalf of RedHat.
>> We as OpenStack community are using Zanata currently. But we are not
>> able to takeover the project. Zanata is written in Java and we haven't
>> such kind of programming skills in our community. Sorry.
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> >>
>> >>> On 4/27/19 11:30 PM, Nedim Laletovic wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>> does anybody know who can we contact in regards to the future plans
>> >>> for Zanata, so we can find out if this project is officially dead...
>> >>>
>> >> Normally, I recognize this mailing list as *the* contact channel. But
>> >> neither the (vanished) Zanata development team nor anyone from Redhat
>> >> didn't respond yet. No matter if official or unofficial, Zanata is
>> >> dead, or at least dies a slow death.
>> >>
>> >> Best Regards,
>> >> Mario
>> >>
>> >>> On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 8:04 PM Mario Blättermann
>> >>> <mario.blaettermann at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Hi Frank,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Am Sa., 27. Apr. 2019 um 16:45 Uhr schrieb Frank Kloeker
>> >>>> <eumel at arcor.de>:
>> >>>>> Am 2019-04-27 13:02, schrieb Mario Blättermann:
>> >>>>>> Hello,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Berkay Koç <uppercut733 at hotmail.com> schrieb am Sa., 27. Apr.
>> >>>>>> 2019,
>> >>>>>> 12:34:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> It's been a few days since the translate.zanata.org [1] doesn't
>> >>>>>>> respond.
>> >>>>>>> Me and my team haven't been able to perform any translations
>> >>>>>>> since
>> >>>>>>> our documents were on that server.
>> >>>>>>> What's going on? When will it be open again?
>> >>>>>> This happened already a few weeks ago, and after a few days the
>> >>>>>> web
>> >>>>>> interface was back again.
>> >>>>>> But it was very annoying for both translators and project
>> >>>>>> maintainers,
>> >>>>>> and for no one of the Zanata admins it was worth a message about
>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>>> reasons why it happened, and when we might expect to use it again.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Some time ago, translation projects (even really big ones) were
>> >>>>>> moved
>> >>>>>> from Transifex to Zanata. But given the continuing problems, it
>> >>>>>> would
>> >>>>>> be time to think about leaving Zanata. In fact, I can use it only
>> >>>>>> with
>> >>>>>> a workaround anyway, because *.ts files from my Qt based project
>> >>>>>> are
>> >>>>>> not handled properly. The current up-and-down rhythm of the
>> >>>>>> translation interface would then be the second reason to move to
>> >>>>>> another platform.
>> >>>>> Please keep in mind there is no Zanata maintenance team anymore.
>> >>>>> Their
>> >>>>> are gone some months ago. There isn't any official statements from
>> >>>>> IBM
>> >>>>> or RedHat about the project status. I wouldn't say, you have to
>> >>>>> move,
>> >>>>> but backup your data on a daily base could ba a good idea :)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> Good to know… Indeed, the last commit to the Github repo was almost
>> >>>> eight months
>> >>>> ago. I should look for an alternative soon. The issue with the not
>> >>>> fully
>> >>>> supported *.ts files is really annoying enough (all such files will
>> >>>> be
>> >>>> internally converted into *.po files, and after syncing I have to
>> >>>> convert them
>> >>>> back), but if I don't know if Zanata tomorrow will be reachable,
>> >>>> then it's not
>> >>>> mine anymore.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Best Regards,
>> >>>> Mario
>> >>>>
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