Hardware compat with Fc8

Fri Jul 25 17:10:33 UTC 2008

I believe that the RAWHIDE (AS4000/4100) and TINCUP (AS1200) machines
never even had pinouts for the IDE controllers that were part of their
super IO (3rd party) chips, that provided other "legacy" facilities
(clock/keyboard/mouse/floppy/serial ports/etc).

All had an NCR 810 built in, and sold with SCSI CDROMs, and the further
expectation of using SCSI/RAID controllers for any heavy disk work.

As for their SRMs having IDE code in: I'd not bet a nickel on it. Most
of the SRM consoles, though using "common" code, were HIGHLY conditionally
compiled, to both add things that were particular, and remove things that
weren't present, on the specific platform.

Any reason why netboot (bootp) wouldn't be a viable alternate?

Sorry.

--Jay++

John Grzesiak wrote:
> Good information... and while we are close to the subject, I want to repeat a
> query I made a while ago, in case it got missed somehow...
> 
> Does anyone know of an IDE paddle card that will work with the SRM on
> an AS4100
> ??? I use my 4100 to play with several loaded systems and think that
> somehow it
> would be easier to have my main boot on CF disk mounted on a paddle
> card. I have
> done this with my 164LX, and it works fine, but, the 164LX supports IDE (not
> particularly fast which is why I only boot off of it) directly on the
> motherboard, so, SRM needs to support that at least.
> 
> I am just wondering is:: Are there any vestiges of the IDE boot code in the
> 4100's SRM ??? It would have been nice and expedient to not remove the code
> (and subsequently have to debug the changes) from all the SRM based machines,
> even if DEC/Compaq was not planning on ever using IDE for anything in those
> machines...
> 
> I am not adverse to doing the work myself, but, if anyone knows
> definitively, it
> would be nice. A "No, it won't work at all... find another way..." works great
> too... I just hate wasting time on fruitless efforts. I have little
> enough time
> to play anymore...
> 
> (No more complaints now... I will be quiet on this from here on out...)...
> 
> I will throw a bit of information in here... The LK-13415 PATA control to SATA
> drive adapter has shown some indications that it will work if you can't get a
> SATA paddle card to behave. There are some minor glitches in some SATA drives
> backwards compatibility support, so, I don't think I would be trying to use
> them in any sort of ARRAY, but, having a drive to boot off and have some
> offline storage should be doable. The adapter is about $9 ??? (If I am
> remembering right) on eBay... The company name is:: NSIoutlet.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Quoting Jay Estabrook <Jay.Estabrook at hp.com>:
> 
>> Several months ago, a Debian fellow (Hi, Tom!) and I looked at SiL
>> controllers - he a controller based on SiL chipset 3124, while mine
>> was a SIIG card based on SiL 3512 chipset.
>>
>> As of his last status, 3124 was still failing using 2.6.25.4, while
>> my 3512 appeared to be working OK with our 2.6.24.4 kernel.
>>
>> Note that I have not been using it at all since then, and only did
>> some very minor testing, so of course, YMMV...
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> --Jay++
>>
>> bob smith wrote:
>>> Thanks to Bert and Steven -
>>> I will see if I can find a promise or one of the other sata cards
>>> and test this.
>>>
>>> modprobe -l | grep sata
>>> /lib/modules/2.6.23.10-97.fc8.1axp/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_qstor.ko
>>> /lib/modules/2.6.23.10-97.fc8.1axp/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_vsc.ko
>>> /lib/modules/2.6.23.10-97.fc8.1axp/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_via.ko
>>> /lib/modules/2.6.23.10-97.fc8.1axp/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_sis.ko
>>> /lib/modules/2.6.23.10-97.fc8.1axp/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_inic162x.ko
>>> /lib/modules/2.6.23.10-97.fc8.1axp/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_nv.ko
>>> /lib/modules/2.6.23.10-97.fc8.1axp/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_sil.ko
>>> /lib/modules/2.6.23.10-97.fc8.1axp/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_uli.ko
>>> /lib/modules/2.6.23.10-97.fc8.1axp/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_promise.ko
>>> /lib/modules/2.6.23.10-97.fc8.1axp/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_sx4.ko
>>> /lib/modules/2.6.23.10-97.fc8.1axp/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_sil24.ko
>>> /lib/modules/2.6.23.10-97.fc8.1axp/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_mv.ko
>>> /lib/modules/2.6.23.10-97.fc8.1axp/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_svw.ko
>>>
>>>
>>> Steven Moix wrote:
>>>
>>> I can't give you a definitive answer, but we know some things:
>>>
>>> - You can't boot from a SATA card because of the SRM, you'll always need
>>> a disk to contain the boot files.
>>> - A card which has kernel drivers should work, have a look
>>> in /lib/modules/yourkernelversion/kernel/drivers/ata for compiled
>>> drivers. You can also look at the /boot/config-yourkernel file under the
>>> "SCSI Transports" section for compiled drivers. m means that they are
>>> compild as modules, the .ko files.
>>>
>>> So let us know when you have tried :)
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 09:53 -0400, bob smith wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I would like to add some disk drives to a couple of alphas.
>>> I am interested in adding SATA drives, the price is right, but am not
>>> sure where to
>>> look for compatible PCI card sata interfaces.
>>> Has any one tried this? does it work with FC8? is there a list of
>>> cmpatible cards?
>>> thanks
>>> bob
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