DOS Linux and dsl? th

Karen Lewellen klewellen at shellworld.net
Tue Nov 14 17:22:50 UTC 2006



thanks again,
actually lots of DOS work goes on mostly over seas.
One can for example us almost any dvdr or cdrw device under dos  and 
create cds and dvds.
Still I will investigate, am unlikely to go the cable avenue, and if I 
find a program will share that wisdom here.
Like anything, one's success is colored by one's passion to see results.
Karen

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, Martin McCormick wrote:

> 	Well, my honest answer is that I can't say for sure.
>
> 	There are lots of different protocols in use at the point
> where you connect to the network.  At home, I am on SBC's DSL
> which uses something called P P P O E that stands for Point to Point
> Protocol Over Ethernet.  With that protocol, you use an
> authentication method involving a password to get to the P P P O E
> server.  When you get logged in, the P P P O E SERVER GIVES YOU
> AN ip ADDRESS WHICH GETS YOU ON THE iNTERNET.  iF YOU USE THE
> RIGHT KIND OF ROUTER, IT CAN ALSO DO p p p o e SO IT DOES ALL
> THAT FOR YOU WHEN YOU CONNECT TO THE dsl MODEM.
>
> 	iF YOU ARE ON A LOT OF CABLE tv SYSTEM MODEMS, THERE IS
> NO p p p o e TO DEAL WITH.  yOU ARE EITHER ASSIGNED AN ip ADDRESS
> WHEN YOU SUBSCRIBE TO THE SERVICE OR you get a different IP
> address each time you connect to the network.
>
> 	Our SBC service gives us a different IP address each time
> we reconnect unless you want to pay about twice as much each
> month and then we could get a static IP address and even register
> a domain name.
>
> 	I don't know if there is software that runs on DOS that
> will handle the P P P O E negotiation.  There certainly are ways
> in Linux to get on the network.
>
> 	I only use DOS to access Linux any more.  I agree that
> DOS still has its uses such as what we are talking about, but all
> the neat stuff is happening under UNIX.
>
> 	I had a question on this list about getting telnet and
> ftp working under DOS so I can telnet to other Linux systems in
> the same room, but telnet is basically insecure because it is not
> encrypted in any way.  If you, for example, are on a cable TV
> modem, the neighbors around you are on the same network segment
> as you and can intercept your communications if they are so
> inclined.  Encrypted communications look like garbage to anybody
> else.  You are more likely to find the latest versions of ssh and
> browsers capable of SSL which stands for Secure Socket Layer
> under Linux.  I have no idea at all what is available for DOS
> along those lines, but nobody is doing any real development in
> DOS any more.
>
> Karen Lewellen writes:
>> I have one  additional question though.
>>
>> Is there a way to work directly from DOS, say use the network card and
>> connect to the dSL modem only?
>
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