John Heim jheim at
Thu Sep 9 13:38:19 UTC 2010

I would think that even if you get pocketputty or the other ssh/telnet 
client configured on your Pac Mate, it might still be too limiting to run 
pine comfortably. Its hard enough to use pine on a linux machine with 
speakup. But you'd be using pine in a Windows ssh client with jaws. On top 
of that, its not regular jaws, its jaws for Windows Mobile.  Even if you can 
get an ssh client working on your Pac Mate, you might not be able to use 

Are you already using a Windows ssh client? I use openssh for Windows when I 
do ssh. It works well with jaws but it works great with nvda. Whne I really 
need to do something important in ssh, I use a linux machine with speakup. 
Nothing is better than that. But openssh for Windows and nvda is really good 
too. So if you get a netbook, you could put nvda on it and openssh both of 
which are free. You would have no additional costs besides the netbook 

From: "Leslie Fairall" <fairall at>
To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list at>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: Notetakers

> Uh, I telnet to Shellworld all of the time. Pine is definitely on the 
> shell. I've been playing with Unix shells since 1994, so I do understand 
> the core basics. My question was if there was any notetaker or software 
> that would allow me to either telnet/ssh to my shell account. The Pac Mate 
> runs Windows Mobile, which does not have either client installed. It 
> sounds like I may have a couple of options. I can either use a telnet/ssh 
> client for Windows Mobile such as VXHPC or Pocket Putty. There might also 
> be a way for me to set up Outlook to access my mail on Shellworld since I 
> believe it uses pop3. I'd rather access my mail on the command line, but I 
> might ultimately have to go that route. I've also considered purchasing a 
> netbook which would allow me to install a terminal program like Tera Term 
> Pro since I'd be using a real PC. I may be getting to the point where 
> using a notetaker may be more limiting than I would like. I really 
> appreciate those of you who have taken the time to answer my questions and 
> given me some food for thought. I ultimately asked the question on the 
> Linux list since most people on other blindness-related lists I'm 
> subscribed to had no answer. Since I want to access my UNIX shell and 
> ultimately build my own Linux box, I thought there would be knowledgeable 
> people on this list who might be able to give me some direction. Ok, so 
> that's my long explanation for my question. Thanks to everyone again for 
> being willing to help.
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