Are w3c Standards Only for windows Sites-and-users?

Karen Lewellen klewellen at
Sat Jun 14 04:39:52 UTC 2014

Hi Larry,
First and foremost w3c  rules are not just for windows users.  In fact for 
a site to be wacg 1.0 or 2.0 compliant, a site must be browser agnostic, 
it is  in the rules.  further all functions must work from the keyboard. 
Sometimes a company will misinterpret a section known as the technical 
baseline clause.  That clause refers to what a company can require in 
house for its own staff because they will be supplying all of the 

Granted we do not have the most current editions of lynx here at 
shellworld, in fact the one here has a bug that is not corrected until the 
more recent 2.9 family.  still links  or even elinks are more java 
friendly, and should work if the company involved really has followed w3c 
rules. BTW, there are test tools that will let you know if the site is 
compliant, within reason.
May I ask which store you are using?
Hope all this lecture helps some.  You have a complaint I assure you.

On Fri, 13 Jun 2014, Hart Larry wrote:

> Wow, I suppose we in Linux may need our own version of a Civil Rights Bill. 
> HEheHEheHEheHE
> Ther is a large Grocery chain which was involved in a settlement-and-just 
> upgraded, or supposedly made its site accessible to all shoppers.
> Until March of 2010 I was able to shop this site in Linux, maybe not perfect, 
> but if I were careful I filled out everything fine. Beginning in April 2010, 
> no matter which Linux browser or JAWS I couldn't shop any more. In their 
> separate access site, their help FAQ said they did not use any complicated 
> scripting such as javascript or css, however, in the source-code, there they 
> were.
> Well, now April 30 has come-and-gone, I still cannot shop in either L Y N X 
> or E L I N K S. When shopping by eile I notice items in a catagory, but none 
> of them have any links to add to my cart.
> So today intouch with a CSR, who found it, I can try chrome vox  or fire vox. 
> I tried looking for these with an "apt-get" in Debian, cannot find. Are these 
> only for graphical browsers such as in an x11 display?
> I was told that w3c requirements may give them choices of either html, 
> javascript, or css?
> So if they are permitted to write a site which would not work for many users, 
> if they were picking 2 of those 3 choices, how is that access for all?
> So many times especially during the last 2years, an onis is always on myself 
> to possibly run windows  or maybe ask asistance of some1 running a graphical 
> setup.
>> From what I hear, L Y N X will maybe never have javascript support.
> So what happens next? If indeede the standards give site owners leeway in 
> leaving out a group of users, as well as a potential revenue loss. Or even 
> worse, what happens if they drop delivery because of lack of shoppers?
> Thanks alot for listening-and-I welcom all of your ideas-and-suggestions.
> I did try Orca many years ago but it was `quite slow, but also even in 
> Speakup in software speech, the volume was lo in I B M tts. I am running 
> Speakup with a DecTalk U S B.
> Hart
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