Help with a few projects

Linux for blind general discussion blinux-list at
Tue Dec 12 23:20:08 UTC 2017


For your information, could you please address me properly? I am female, 
and I do not know if there is anything that had implied that I was of a 
much younger age, but I am twenty-three.



On 12/12/2017 3:00 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Ulysses, if you've got an Apache webserver, then generally speaking
> the group to hwich the webserver belongs by default is www-data. So u
> would add the wordpressuser to that group. Again, your postfix error
> is telling u that your user/group permissions are incorrect.
> My web hosting invoicing program just crappe the bed. I really need to
> get that up first before I can provide much help. I apologize. I would
> be willing to try to help once I get this situation straightened out &
> a small website built for a client. But right now, young Sir, I'm a
> little inundated. Truthfully, given the way things are now, it's
> likely gonna be hard for me to get back w/u to any meaningful degree
> till after the first of the year. I'm sorry. Holidays w/a family &
> trying to run a business can get a little hectic. But if I can get my
> invoice program working in a reasonable timeframe, I'll get back on
> list sooner & see if I can't help u out. I hope that sounds fair.
> On 12/12/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> This is the guide I used to follow and set up Postfix.
>> The error occurred here. wordpressuser at vps:~$ echo "This is the body of
>> the e-mail." | mail -s "This is the subject of the e-mail." green_gables
>> _fan33 at
>> Can't canonicalize "/home/wordpressuser/Maildir"
>> wordpressuser at vps:~$ postdrop: warning: /etc/postfix/
>> file is owned or writable by non-root users -- skip
>> ping this file
>> Could you be less vague. I.E. provide actual steps on how to fix this
>> problem? I'll outline the steps I took when I read this sentence. Your
>> problem w/WordPress is that you likely don't have the user of the
>> wordpress files belonging to the webserver group. Once u make that
>> happen, your updating problems will disappear. U need to set the file
>> permissions back to a safer level, or your site wil get hacked.
>> I only understood you as far as needing to change the ownership of the
>> WordPressfiles and their permissions. /var/www/html/blog, where blog is
>> the folder that contains WordPress, is as follows, using Win SCP. blog
>> Owner: wordpressuser, Group: wordpressuser, Type: File folder, Rights:
>> rwsrwsrwt, Changed: 12/12/2017 1:58:35 P
>> Based on your statement, I assumed that I needed to change ownership of
>> both group and user, and change permissions to Apache2, MySQL, and PHP
>> to the same user that WordPress is set to.
>> /etc/apache2, /etc/mysql, and /etc/php
>> apache2 Owner: wordpressuser, Group: wordpressuser, Type: File folder,
>> Rights: rwsrwsrwt, Changed: 11/28/2017 1:25:20 A mysql Owner:
>> wordpressuser, Group: wordpressuser, Type: File folder, Rights:
>> rwsrwsrwt, Changed: 10/29/2017 6:02:10 P php Owner: wordpressuser,
>> Group: wordpressuser, Type: File folder, Rights: rwsrwsrwt, Changed:
>> 9/16/2017 12:33:01 P
>> I tried updating a plug-in, but it is still giving me the same error
>> message. If you want to do an actual session where you could try to help
>> me via phone or Skype, I let me know if you would like to pay you a
>> small sum or if you'd like to volunteer your time.
>> Also, you didn't specify how having all files and folders set to 7777
>> would increase the level of attack if Cloudflare is supposed to keep
>> people from finding out my IP address, or if they tried accessing
>> wp-content/uploads and put malicious PHP scripts.
>> I think Windows servers have their place in the universe, but why they
>> have to be expensive I know not. Yes, Linux is all done via bash and
>> SSH, whereas Windows is done via remote desktop. And for some people, if
>> you want to get things done without worrying about command lines, you
>> could try C-Panel or something simple, but if you want to know how and
>> why things work, and how the puzles all fit together, you can learn as
>> long as you have a good support sytem, and many people do not have that.
>> What kind of certain web components would be redirected that would make
>> it difficult for a beginner to work around? How accessible is
>> cloudflare? I noticed some unusual buttons that have vague labels and
>> whatnot. I am using NVDA on Windows 10 with Google Chrome and Firefox.
>> -Ulysses
>> On 12/12/2017 1:19 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>> Ulysses, provide your error logs & we can assist w/the postfix
>>> problem. If those error logs contain information u don't wish on a
>>> public list, then go ahead & email me privately at
>>> abletec at g mail dot com. You can't copy-&-paste that email, as I've
>>> munged it to prevent spam harvesting, but u should be able to figure
>>> it out.
>>> Your problem w/WordPress is that you likely don't have the user of the
>>> wordpress files belonging to the webserver group. Once u make that
>>> happen, your updating problems will disappear. U need to set the file
>>> permissions back to a safer level, or your site wil get hacked.
>>> Unless there's a compelling reason to do so, ie, you're developing
>>> some sort of Windows software, my recommendation would be to use Linux
>>> to host websites. It's cheaper, &, IMO, also more secure for a number
>>> of reasons. I realize I'll likely encounter the ire of some on this
>>> list for saying thus, but it really is a fact, IMO.
>>> I would also advise disabling Cloudflare until you get everything set
>>> up, because it tends to add an additional layer in terms of
>>> redirecting certain web components that makes things hard for a
>>> beginner to learn & figure out what's going on.
>>> On 12/12/17, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> My name is Ulysses Harmony Garcia. My web site is
>>>> I heard about I heard about
>>>> this mailing list through a Facebook post.
>>>>      For several years, I've been trying to figure out what kind of
>>>> services I
>>>>      could use to satisfy my needs. In the early 2010's, I looked into
>>>> shared
>>>>      hosting plans, but the more I looked at them, the more I didn't like
>>>> them because I wanted to be able to have full
>>>>      control of the server. All they let you use is a public HTML folder
>>>> and an FTP server port 21 or 990 for secure connections, and a web-based
>>>> administration tool like Webmin or C-Panel. So I continued using Dropbox
>>>> to host my web site. The only problem was that I had to use an http
>>>> colon slash slash dl dot dropboxusercontent dot com slash u slash
>>>> xxxxxxxx slash index dot html to render it, which is a pretty long link,
>>>> but at least it worked.
>>>> Four years later, I looked into the cloud, SSD, and dedicated
>>>>      VPS options. By asking around, I heard of several different choices
>>>> such as Linode,
>>>>      Vultr, Digital Ocean, OVH, and through a diary entry I had made back
>>>> in
>>>>      2014, VPS dot Next, I had to learn about which operating system I
>>>> would most likely
>>>>      use for the server. Since 2005, I have primarily used Windows,
>>>>      and I started using a Mac in 2011. I have never used Linux, and I
>>>>      probably chose to stay away from it because I associated Linux as an
>>>>      operating system only computer geeks would use. So when I was looking
>>>> for a
>>>>      VPS, I was lucky to find a Windows server on vps dot net. However,
>>>> when I told others
>>>>      about it, many people acted like that was a crime, or that it was
>>>>      impractical to use Windows as a server, and that 99.99% of the web
>>>> was
>>>>      hosted by Linux, which was meant to be used as a server operating
>>>> system.
>>>>      I've done most of the work on my own. I first began with a Windows
>>>>      virtual private server at VPS dot net, but I was not able to set
>>>>      up the web server, database server and PHP to work on-line, except
>>>>      through Localhost. I wasn't able to use Internet Information Services
>>>>      IIS either, so I gave up on it and cancelled my server. Fortunately,
>>>> I kept my
>>>>      account active, so I could come back to it when I wasn't overwhelmed.
>>>> I even tried enabling Internet Information Services on my Windows 10
>>>> computer by using the enable or disables Windows features. I checked
>>>> every one of them, but when I typed localhost in the connect to computer
>>>> dialogue box, I got this message. IIS6 Manager  dialogue  Unable to
>>>> connect to localhost. The target server does not have the SMTP service
>>>> installed. You cannot manage an IIS 7.5 Web or FTP server by using
>>>> Internet Information Services (6.0) Manager.
>>>>      As primarily being an extroverted person, I get energy from working
>>>> with
>>>>      other people rather than working alone, yet for some reason, I've
>>>>      encountered a lot of people who think that being too dependent on
>>>> others
>>>>      was a bad thing, that being completely independent was the best way
>>>> to
>>>>      go. I disagree with that. I mean, I can see why some people wouldn't
>>>>      want to be too dependent on others for fear of taking too much of
>>>>      someone's time or being too clingy, etc, or taking advantage of said
>>>>      person, but I also believe that there needs to be a balance in
>>>> helping
>>>>      others and being self-reliable. This is where interdependence comes
>>>> in. Manuals are never straightforward. You can follow the directions in
>>>> the manual as exactly outlined and end up with error messages. Even
>>>> googling error messages can't guarantee that you will get a quick
>>>> solution. Having said that, I have joined a few community forums and
>>>> posted these error messages, but never received replies.
>>>>      Back in July, I contacted a few people I know who were successfully
>>>> using
>>>>      the popular content management system WordPress, and asked if they
>>>> could
>>>>      help out. One person, whose name I won't mention, said they could set
>>>> up
>>>>      my web site, if I could provide $300/hr USD and that it was estimated
>>>> to
>>>>      take four hours to set up to where I wanted it to be. Now, this
>>>> person
>>>>      is also blind. What I do not understand is how someone who may be
>>>>      knowledgeable about supplemental security income could decide to
>>>> charge
>>>>      such a high price to set up something simple, and that is
>>>>      semi-automated, and easy to install. I wrote a reply, and didn't hear
>>>>      back for a month. I re-sent my reply and was told that if I wanted to
>>>>      continue with the route that I choose, I would have to go on
>>>> Bookshare
>>>>      or BARD to download books on Windows server hosting, and that I had
>>>>      sufficient resources on the Audio Games net forum to start.
>>>>      so in September, I finally found a fellow who turned out to be
>>>> someone I
>>>>      knew by reputation, and he offered to spend his free time in helping
>>>> me
>>>>      out, especially since he has had plenty of experience in working with
>>>>      virtual private servers and web hosting. If you ask him how he liked
>>>> working with me, he might tell you that I learn things pretty quickly
>>>> once I get to actually learning the steps live on Skype or phone. I also
>>>> record my sessions so I can look back and see what I did. By that time,
>>>> I was a little
>>>>      more knowledgeable in talking to others on this topic.
>>>> Look at post four.  I
>>>> told my new friend a little bit of what I've hoped to accomplish, and
>>>> what I
>>>>      have done so far, and how much experience I've already had. In 2010
>>>>      through 2013, I worked on building an HTML 4.1 and 5 project in high
>>>>      school using Notepad, and in 2013, I used CSS 3 to enhance it when I
>>>>      took a college class in web development. In mid July of 2013, I got
>>>>      myself a WordPress blog up and running, which has been since taken
>>>> down.
>>>>      I decided to export this blog and import it into the self-hosted
>>>>      version, and I was able to successfully link up all of my web pages
>>>> to a podcast generator and the WordPress system.
>>>> Right now we are sort of stuck on where to go, since I already have a
>>>>      basic HTML site with no scripts on my Ubuntu VPS, a TeamTalk server
>>>>      running, and hopefully an IceCast or ShoutCast server for streaming.
>>>> I heard that you can get
>>>>      an e-mail provider through Google Aps and install their mail exchange
>>>>      and text verification records, but they are quite costly, and I don't
>>>>      know if you'd have to install anything on Ubuntu to make sure the PHP
>>>>      contact forms worked properly. By following several guides on Linode
>>>> and Digital Ocean, I was able to install Postfix and S-Nail, but I keep
>>>> getting error messages when I am trying to send a message as a test.
>>>> I also got an account through Cloudflare, and if you were to do a user $
>>>> dig +short or root# dig +short
>>>> you'd see instead of my actual
>>>> server's IP address. If you tried using that directly, it'd say,
>>>> Cloudflare direct IP access not allowed. This is to keep attackers from
>>>> finding out what my server's IP address is. If they tried doing a who is
>>>> on my domain, they'd see a privacy protect dot org notice instead of my
>>>> name.
>>>> Also, I really couldn't understand how C-Panel and Webmin administration
>>>> tools worked until my friend showed me how he used the terminal on his
>>>> Cent OS VPS to install it. It sort of reminded me of PHP My Admin. You
>>>> simply put :2083, :2087, or :2086 at the end of your domain.
>>>> I also installed Certbot which uses Lets Encrypt. At the moment I can't
>>>> seem to figure out how to force traffic to be automatically redirected
>>>> to https(443) instead of http(80). But now since I'm using Cloudflare,
>>>> I'm not sure if that will be necessary.
>>>>      Once I get more advanced, and raised my income through Amazon
>>>>      Associates and stripe payments, I'd like to install a phone box or
>>>> PBX using Asterisk as well. Note that I am running PHP 7. My friend and
>>>> I tried installing Free PBX, but it doesn't seem to like it, so we had
>>>> to give it up temporarily, at least until they release the newer version.
>>>> On a more interesting topic, I don't know if any of you are into speech
>>>> synthesis that can sing. I am very much into singing synthesis and have
>>>> spent quite a bit of time with DECtalk and Vocaloid. I recently got
>>>> interested in learning how to use Festival and make my own speech
>>>> synthesiser. If you look at post 57 of this thread, you can see where I
>>>> am at right now.
>>>> So having said that, might any of you be able to help me resolve this
>>>> mail problem with Postfix and S-Nail? I keep getting a debug error.
>>>> Also, for some annoying reason which my friend and I have not been able
>>>> to determine, I cannot install plug-ins or update WordPress directly. It
>>>> wants to access my web server through FTP or FTPS, and I don't have one
>>>> properly configured. I tried changing all file and folder permissions to
>>>> 7777 recursively, but I am still unable to update and install plug-ins
>>>> automatically. If any of you are able to help me with that as well I
>>>> would greatly appreciate it.
>>>> Anyhow, I apologise for this lengthy e-mail, but hopefully that gives
>>>>      you all an idea of what I've done so far and where I'd like to go
>>>> next. :-)
>>>>      Sincerely,
>>>>      -Ulysses
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