A question about Fenrir on Arch linux

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Fri May 21 11:41:31 UTC 2021 

Howdy,

well removing espeak is not the point :), installing espeak-ng was the 
main point.

Am 21.05.21 um 13:38 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> Hello there,
>
>
> removing espeak doesn't fix it, the same problem still persists.
>
> Best regards.
>
> Francisco.
>
>
> On 5/21/21 12:36 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> Howdy
>>
>>> I have espeak, sox, and xclip installed, plus pulseaudio, 
>>> pulseaudio-alsa, alsa-utils and plugins. 
>> espeak-ng is used by default instead of espeak. espeak-ng is the 
>> successor of espeak. do take care to not install espeak but espeak-ng 
>> and give another shot :).
>>
>>
>> Am 21.05.21 um 11:47 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>> Hello there,
>>>
>>>
>>> Just for the heck of it, I redid a clean install of arch with 
>>> pulseaudio this time, and I configured everything I needed running 
>>> the sh script you indicated.
>>>
>>> It half works, and half doesn't.
>>>
>>> What I mean by that is that when I restarted the machine, just a few 
>>> seconds ago and ran fenrir as sudoer, it played the sound icon, 
>>> thing that with pipewire didn't happen, but gave me no speech at all.
>>>
>>> I have espeak, sox, and xclip installed, plus pulseaudio, 
>>> pulseaudio-alsa, alsa-utils and plugins.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks again.
>>>
>>> Best regards.
>>>
>>> Francisco.
>>>
>>> On 5/18/21 5:06 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>> Howdy,
>>>>
>>>> do you have the requirements for the generic sound / voice drivers 
>>>> installed?
>>>> To get sure, reinstall it execute:
>>>> sudo pacman -S sox espeak-ng xclip
>>>>
>>>> sox is used for play sound, espeak for voice output in the default 
>>>> configuration, xclip is a funny toy to let fenrir share the 
>>>> clipboard between your GUI and Terminal.
>>>>
>>>> start fenrir for testing in foreground - you can stop it using CTRL 
>>>> + C
>>>> sudo fenrir
>>>>
>>>> did you hear the startup sound? fenrir plays a little soundicon at 
>>>> startup.
>>>>
>>>> if not, then pulseaudio is not configured.
>>>> short story execute:
>>>> # configure user
>>>> /usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configure_pulse.sh
>>>> # configure root
>>>> sudo /usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configure_pulse.sh
>>>>
>>>> # need to restart that the configuration for both get active
>>>>
>>>> restart
>>>>
>>>> then retry
>>>>
>>>> sudo fenrir
>>>>
>>>> long storry: fenrir needs by default to run as root to collect the 
>>>> data on your screen or caputre the input devices. if fenrir speaks 
>>>> or creates sound, it does this as root user. you wont hear sound of 
>>>> an other user by pulseaudio (sound server) design. We need to 
>>>> transport the sound created as root to the sound server you have 
>>>> running as user to finally hear the sound.
>>>>
>>>> fenrir provides 2 scripts (see above) to configure the root puse 
>>>> audio to send the data to your user and configure user pulse audio 
>>>> to listen to the sound sent by root and play it.
>>>>
>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 18.05.21 um 14:46 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks so much, now, that part of the problem is solved!
>>>>>
>>>>> The other part, how ever, that is not solved, is that fenrir 
>>>>> doesn't speak with espeak, or espeak-ng.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do I have to set something somewhere for that to happen?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Francisco.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/18/21 10:24 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>> Howdy Francisco,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i dont know why those libs are not an dependency by 
>>>>>> python-pyenchant if those are spread warnings. Maybe this should 
>>>>>> be reported to the package maintainer. But anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you can ask pacman what package contains the specific file you 
>>>>>> need by "sudo pacman -Fy filename". here i did this for for 
>>>>>> example in libvokko.so:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 10:14 [chrys at blackbeast ~] :) $ sudo pacman -Fy libvoikko.so
>>>>>> [sudo] Passwort für chrys:
>>>>>> :: Synchronisiere Paketdatenbanken...
>>>>>>  core 903,5 KiB  6,17 MiB/s 00:00 
>>>>>> [#########################################################################] 
>>>>>> 100%
>>>>>>  extra 9,3 MiB  26,9 MiB/s 00:00 
>>>>>> [#########################################################################] 
>>>>>> 100%
>>>>>>  community 22,8 MiB  29,6 MiB/s 00:01 
>>>>>> [#########################################################################] 
>>>>>> 100%
>>>>>>  multilib 222,5 KiB  12,8 MiB/s 00:00 
>>>>>> [#########################################################################] 
>>>>>> 100%
>>>>>> extra/libvoikko 4.3.1-1
>>>>>>     usr/lib/libvoikko.so
>>>>>> 10:15 [chrys at blackbeast ~] :) $
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so the package you need for libvokko.so is "libvoikko"
>>>>>> to silence out all the warnings do this:
>>>>>> sudo pacman -S libvoikko nuspell hspell
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this install all 3 (IMO optional dependency's, what should not 
>>>>>> create a warning, but well, it is like it is)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i use irssi as IRC (commandline) client. there is also Pidgin (as 
>>>>>> graphical client). both are very nice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> looking forward to see you in IRC :).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers chrys
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 18.05.21 um 08:57 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
>>>>>>> Hello there,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I managed to install one of the libraries, but not the other 
>>>>>>> two, so thanks for that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, thanks for suggesting to use yay, I just installed it, I 
>>>>>>> didn't know yaourt was deprecated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My question now is, and this'll be dum, what are recommended IRC 
>>>>>>> clients? how do I get them working? what should I know before 
>>>>>>> joining an IRC channel, what ever it might be?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Francisco.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/17/21 9:19 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi, I just posted a link to this message intended to chrys 
>>>>>>>> (Fenrir author) on the #a11y channel of irc.linux-a11y.org.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe join him there?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Didier
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le 17/05/2021 à 20:15, Linux for blind general discussion a 
>>>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just downloaded fenrir-git from the AUR using yaourt.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When I try to run fenrir with the command
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> fenrir
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> in a terminal, how ever, i get fenrir's startup sound, and this:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [francisco at Blueblink ~]$ fenrir
>>>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.374: Error loading 
>>>>>>>>> plugin: libhspell.so.
>>>>>>>>> 0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.374: Error loading 
>>>>>>>>> plugin: libvoikko.so.
>>>>>>>>> 1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.377: Error loading 
>>>>>>>>> plugin: libnuspell.so
>>>>>>>>> .4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any ideas on how to fix it, and no speech either.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you for any answer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Francisco.
>>>>>>>>>
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