Accessibility of installing Distros?

[Linux for blind general discussion]

Using espeak I can do really fast, but synthesizors that try and sound 
human, sorry, but the deafblind guy in the room simply gets a headache and 
gets lossed.

Warm regards,

Brandt Steenkamp

Sent from the Slint console using Alpine

On Fri, 18 Feb 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 19:40:58 +0000
> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: Accessibility of installing Distros?
> 
> Going off of vanilla Arch here but it uses espeakup by default as the 
> speech synth and method in the accessible boot (which is down arrow when 
> booting off a stick or CD) and it's easy to understand. I get it. Some 
> people can do stupidly high speech rates. But not everyone can. I've 
> left espeakup alone on my box and it works pretty well, I can adjust it 
> easily and it's easy to understand and follow along with. Even at top 
> speed it's not insanely fast
>
> Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> If you install espeak-ng in extra packages then in the chroot environment:
>> sysctl disable fenrir
>> then sysctl enable espeak
>> before rebooting that should at least put an end to fenrir eventually.
>> The fenrir speech speed is too fast; it can be adjusted downward but I
>> think never ought to have been set that fast for installation or
>> post-install use.  Maybe speech-rate=0.5 would be better and at the speed
>> espeak uses by default.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>
>>> The issue is that it's already on a desktop, usually Mate.
>>>
>>> If I install it again, I'm installing it console only, and then building 
> it as
>>> I see fit, which would be with ratpoison only.
>>>
>>> Will probably go to Arch directly anyway. Why get something that, firstly
>>> speaks with a Screen reader I never bothered to learn, since Speakup works
>>> well enough for my needs, secondly speaks so darn fast no human can 
> understand
>>> the thing, especially if, like me you can hardly hear anything anymore 
> anyway?
>>>
>>> I can build my system in vanilla Arch as well as with anything else. I, 
> for
>>> example wouldn't install Firefox at all, but probably one of the Chromium
>>> based browsers plus elinks for when I'm beeing lazy and want to stay on a
>>> console.
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>>
>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>
>>> Sent from the Slint console using Alpine
>>>
>>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 13:41:19 -0500
>>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>> To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list at redhat.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Accessibility of installing Distros?
>>>>
>>>> Have you tried running startx to turn orca on?  You may find that works.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes it would finish the install, then reboot, and come up speaking
>>>>> with
>>>>> Fenrir with a very annoying voice, especially if you, like me is legally
>>>>> deafblind, then after typing your username and password, Fenrir would 
> just
>>>>> die
>>>>> and you are stuck, I know it's a desktop environment, but nothing turns
>>>>> orca
>>>>> on.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So much for an accessible distro.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is why I love Slint. It does exactly what "you", tell it to do, not
>>>>> the
>>>>> dev.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No disrespect to Mr. Nash, I'm sure he's a perfectly nice guy, not that
>>>>> I've
>>>>> ever spoken to him though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from the Slint machine using Thunderbird
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2022/02/18 17:10, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>> Makes at least two of us.  The installer always found itself looping 
> and
>>>>>> repeating failed package retrieval.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/17/22 13:12, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>>> I could never get Jenux to work correctly on my setup.
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