paulo.banon at googlemail.com
Thu Jun 21 01:14:14 UTC 2007
Yeah i though we were talking about our own SCM... The one we use to
maintain the configs for our different tools, webservers and apps :)
The other is still a good discussion, but should take place in the other
thread (i might be wrong of course :P)
On 6/20/07, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath at redhat.com> wrote:
> Karsten Wade wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 16:01 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote:
> >> I'd really like there to be offline support in a manner that allows
> >> non-commiters to be able to clone, modify, and provide a repo back to
> us that
> >> we can pull from.
> > +1
> > I think the barrier described earlier is worse than we realize. It may
> > seem like delving into technical details, but actually "centralized v.
> > distributed VCS" is actually a strategic question.
> > Strategically, we need to move _all_ of Fedora in the direction of
> > distributed VCS.
> > Honestly, this is the whole truth behind why we are working our arses
> > off in Docs and L10N to get new ways for people to be able to
> > contribute. We *must* have the XML/PO-based tools to get the work done,
> > but making people go through all the hoops to gain write access to the
> > SCM means we get maybe 1% of the interested people from "I want to help"
> > to actually helping.
> > You see a larger successful percentage with developers because they have
> > been through the VCS account system learning curve in the past. Not so
> > with people who want to write content or translate. This is why
> > everything from GPG keys to CVS committing are so new to so much of our
> > prospective contributors.
> > So, Infrastructure is much closer to developers, in that the pool of
> > potentials are more likely to be clued. But keeping it this hard to
> > contribute means we are missing out on the 10000x more people who are
> > not clued enough to get over the walls, but who would become so clued if
> > we could get them in and working their way along the path to
> > Enlightenment.
> > This goes back to the stuff Blizzard keeps talking about -- getting down
> > the barriers between users and developers that our open collaboration
> > tools ironically create.
> > </rant>
> :) I think this thread took a spin away from the Infrastructure SCM and
> on to something else.
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